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WLAN patent key: Option „to indications indicate “switch off?2011-01-09 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I do not remember that this topic was here already times discussed, could not it however with the Sufu any more find. The user the indications of the patent key must to be to be indicated to thus be able as „local Admin “announced and be able with the characteristics for wireless networks. Is there a possibility this to prevent? Kind regards from Bavaria You mean determine the software AVM WLAN stick? I became simply the software (only software, not drivers!!!) deinstallieren and instead the Windowsdienst use instead. Hello SaschaBr, Thanks for the answer. I had to communicate forgotten that it concerns Windows 7. Here one can be able to be indicated under “characteristics for Drahlosnetzwerke” the key (example is a Ralink WLAN map, concerns however likewise Fritz stick a N). Thanks for Anworten and suggestions and kind regards from Bavaria Oh! I did not know at all that one can let indicate with Windows 7. Property here also a computer with Windows 7 to it runs but this hangs with LAN cable to routs, why that was probably unknown to me. Hide the key are in my opinion however eh senseless, since this can be selected anyway with various Tools, at least if one Admin rights have (for example with SIW). Hello Sascha, clear it is to be selected possible the key with suitable Tools. But this manipulation, if it is meant from system information for spying, requires nevertheless some criminal energy. If one however this information completely legally with few Klicks to attain knows is substantially lower the restraining threshold. I have now times a ticket with the AVM support opened, times look which thereby rauskommt. Kind regards from Bavaria Guude, 
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Kind regards from Bavaria Guude, are not now so deep in W7*, but if you your user already “all the same why and why” as “local administrators” announce let must, then the selection of the associated WLAN key should be probably the smallest safety problem, or.??? *but possibly. is this opinion over one policy/GPO also fade outable/blockable…. Quotation:
I see that also in such a way, it give Tools, which make completely simply these indications visible. In the input field of Windows (API function) there is an attribute value, which specifies that the input characters not when visible indications but as * or # or another indication entered there indicated become. It becomes thus only those Announcement on the screen suppressed. Everything else one makes with the correct character string. Quotation:
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We have however every now and then firmstrange user at the computers to sit and I would like to prevent that the WLAN key are accessible. Quotation:
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Kind regards from Bavaria HP. For the sake of the Vollstdigkeit the attitudes Fritz stick of the N It is a Windows dialogue, which apparent concerns each map, independently of the manufacturer, therefore among other things also of AVM. And exactly therefore it does not have to do anything with AVM. I read the last sentence from #7, and exactly therefore I am surprised. You expect free assistance of AVM for a problem, for which AVM cannot do anything. AVM has also more money than I, nevertheless expects I not of AVM assistance for my financial problems. Quotation:
Thus the naheliegenste is for me that I turn to AVM. [Polemik on Quotation:
Polemik off] thus on case of each it is clearly clear that this option does not have to do anything with AVM, but independently of Windows 7 of the used Wlan adapter is made available. From therefore it AVM is definite the wrong partner for the problem. But it speaks nothing against it Microsoft the Windows7-Support to contact. There there is eventuel a solution, but I would not put large hope there drauf, because which I found in such a way with looking for, surely is the statement that the option is wished by several Usern (or probably rather their Admins), but anywhere a solution is not missing. HP: I wrd otherwise times Mercedes the Benz support call - I believe the boss from AVM drives such a car, why you were at least not more mismatching with there with your Wlan Schlsselproblem as with AVM. And if attempt times at the Hotline of becoming green point, finally in this country all successfully do not use recycling system there the yellow bag and/or garbage can Quotation:
I have here a problem and look for a solution. Country on country is schwadroniert off by unprotected WLAN APs, which are German courts already often concerned with this topic. I here already several times read opinions, according to which not illegaly over WLAN surfende hackers, but the operator of the unprotected WLAN belongs punished. It is the attempt to make clear for you how absurd your attitude is that AVM is to help you thereby. And that you bring here suddenly open WLANs also in the play, which have to do otherwise nothing with the topic, make it also not better. Guude, , municipality remains nevertheless calm…  @IT-milano: Which you describe are surely correct and in certain measure a safety gap here. But this gap does not become under any circumstances from AVM/T?? /Linksys/d left… etc. created, but of the used operating system. Naturally the BS must store this key somewhere, and if that is not coded stored, he can be naturally selected by the accessors Usern. Therefore my question about your security concept concerning. the “local” administrator accounts. That is your “actually gemeinste” gap, straight if you in-house mA with “Admin rights”, non-operating at systems, to work leaves. (Who makes with you IT-Security-certifying.?)  You should plug rather once your clever access gaps
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I try to protect my WLAN against unauthorized accesses. If one can determine the entrance key to the WLAN with few Klicks, one can accuse to me as operators of the WLAN that I protected it not sufficiently. @effmue It would lead too far in detail to describe why the domain user locally on the computer administrator rights to have must. The software used by us requires it in such a way. Under XP also no problem was, only with the introduction of Vienna 7 this emerged. naja the most meaningful solution to contact the Ms-Suport I you nevertheless called. Otherwise white I it with the Win7, but does not give to ' not for each program there s, and/or program Shortcut the option “with other user rights implement” like with the WinXP the case actual I go out times of the fact that only for or two determined programs need your user the Admin rights?! To be used and then stop would be its password new username with administrator rights to be put on and with the program call. Whether this password shows then also the WLan key, or whether the Wlan key funzt only by input of the password of the account name “administrator”, you would have to then test naturally. Alternatively attempt perhaps times with the safety guidelines implement ( > secpol.msc) and “software Restriction Rules” > “And there Additional Rules” (in my English Windows) a Hash rule for your program to put on with the option “unrestricted ACCESS”. Thus these two variants are naturally meant for the fact that the actually genutze user account needs no more Admin rights. Did not test I it, only as an idea as it to perhaps go could. Guude, Quotation:
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 .....but you imagine on the safe side, because you in-tilted your giant WPA key problem with AVM… !
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Guude, thus that was to expect unfortunately also in such a way…. I think, sufficient homework now you have…. BTW: and on [solved, without success] the Thread to set you should…
That was to be expected, but “unfortunately” I cannot reconstruct. The support of AVM is financed in the long run over the incomes from the sales of the products. If I mean box of AVM buy, I do not want that the money for such questions goes drauf. Quotation:
That makes courage times in a spirit of mutual confidence with a question to the forum to turn shortly nevertheless so correctly. unterwrfigste greetings from Bavaria Quotation:
1. it is not to be operated legally by SE a comparison an open WLan net, in the comparison to the coded one. There legally unterm line also incoming inspection is sufficient, because to the use thereby an illegal evasion of the safety divice is necessary, no matter how technically simply or heavily presents itself. 2. also a few Klicks to the key only, who steals and like effmue already writes your PC/laptop, was it comes in the direction technically also so far no problem. Or alternatively you registered someone else your key (around this scenario it goes here straight), whereby that already exists access to the WLan eh. The knowledge of the key is really thereby not a difference. And you can secure access of other terminals over the visible WLan key still by the MAC filter. And technically ' s gives and gabs to one protection, thus you your Wlan PC never really loses it will be always possible your Sicherheitscode will select and those, it is only possible for which because Microsoft the option of the visible making inserted, those comes then over the MAC filter also not outside. Thus on the monitor not directly visible keys was in each case a pseudo protection, from therefore Microsoft nothing serious thing actually changed. The main crack point is appropriate simply only in it that you Usern of your laptop/WLan PC which you obviously really do not trust administrator right to give wants and that is safety-relevant actually not to toppen *g* thus a few starting points has I you already called, over which that can be perhaps changed and which user compellingly an Admin account to need. Hello north Italian, since me with the best will into the sense, does not come, which is to have to do an WLAN password announcement of Windows with the WLAN characteristics of the Fritz box, I shifted times into the general range. With next time think nevertheless please even of a meaningful Thread placement. For a long time enough are you here already on the way, in order to know these.
That is almost a prime example for one „Self fulfilling prophecy “! Ok one., there most user apparently no Windows use and also Ubuntu (where as shown the problem of the WLAN key likewise exists in the plain language) no substantial role play is probably justified „banishing “into „the Quasselecke “. In order to heal the Blamage of my stupid question before the whole forum municipality, I ask for it, I and/or-request hereby to delete the entire Thread. Kind regards from sunny Bavaria |
