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Differently than “enormous Sauerrei” one cannot probably designate that slowly any longer which this enterprise takes off there. Data security and Privatsphre are apparently not in the slightest present in their vocabulary. It is already very strained whether my contradiction at that time is converted also in such a way against Street View publication of my Provatadresse. At least it was confirmed at that time Quotation:
, There I can say Puuh times of luck that my small Moria is not yet from interest/might be. But probably rather the larger settlements 
Is WLAN theScannerei real a Sauerei? I do not know a law against it. And if it scanning: We here should know it nevertheless better. Either the SSID is interesting, then however this must have to be assigned individually and individual persons. But the Daus leaves the SSID from “Fritz with the Fritzchen! For box hair dryer WLAN 7170” (=Produktname) stand or take which really individual. However usually not the surname of the person is separates which invented… Like that the assumed identification is not possible. Or however, which is interesting, is the MAC, because this is i.d.R. always individually to assign but no person. Only (temporarly) a geographical position. Thus this information only facilitates the position recognition into google maps and cost. Politicians in the election campaign stress, Google Hasser Aktivisten and logic-released data-security commissioners, notice-released from the dull/musty polarizing of, which sound reflex-like, even if only the smallest data base is put on, should we not to be dazzled not be able. Rather we should deal essentially with the topic. With the “reflex-like” shouting of the data-security commissioners I give you right. In addition, if at the data over WLANs nothing interesting is fundamental to, I find it nevertheless not acceptable. What next does cartography ore become? We are in May to with pictures make, I insert in any case also contradiction alleged. Google actually super, Google Earth also still in order, but Street View goes to IMHO already too far. Navigation is not with the modern Navis on house number basis for me an argument that one must have the whole world in detail admission. Annuitant If I write which I of it hold, ' s gives again points  A Sauerrei is it in my eyes alone already therefore that from the collection and storage of such data so far never the speech was. It will already have its reason, why google so far never spoke of it. If someone liked to check, how far Google is, or which is planned, he can look here lja once. How current the map/list is, I cannot say with security.Click . Quotation:
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Did you see already times a SSID “Mueller lock road”? I know only multistoried buildings with 30x “Fritz! Box…” 20x “Dlink” etc., which to it is personal, extracts itself from my imaginative power.  @Klner Bavarian: As long as you remain material, your attitude to the topic is nevertheless no problem. Why Google did not speak so far of it, is to be seen: Because of blind actionism of certain occupational groups. With logic imo the nothing has to do… Verfremdet, we had Naja, something “Moles", "Plantenbak", "Frog queen", "Heap of dog“(we had that really times),”Homeland channel", "Honk to Oranje“in the neighbourhood. There one can guess at least the origin of the inhabitants But not the direct dwelling…If one sees the people then/their houses, can one already somewhat zusammenreimen themselves. For whom the information is interesting, everyone must find out. But a storage all these data and “public representation” becomes according to my personal opinion sometime once somewhat too violently. Then times in reverse in demand, this collection of the SSIDs is to have which use? Evenly, I think I have still that quite to decide whether my WLAN in any railways emerge or not. Whether from it my identity can be determined, is first times secondary. Although times would interest me who behind “third realm” with me in the neighbourhood hides itself. [EDIT] Ralf: In the article an update with the attempt of an explanation is now to this question. The SSIDs is not perhaps that Point, but [Speculation on]if it is indicated whether it is coded, or not: Quotation:
That would already somewhat more explosively be IMHO. I hardly believe that google is interested in the unencrypted WLANs. Also I believe hardly that google these information will publish, why also - the data (BSSID) are important to those for government inspection department-free position recognition. Everything else makes for me only times no sense. Surely can one bad feeling to get, if such collects a Datenkrake of everything at data of my environment, in which I live, which is to be gotten. Also one cannot exclude, to which these data will be times useful in the future. One should leave and soberly regard the emotions there bare times outside forwards, which with these data is at all feasible. Except that Signpost/guide, if it these is also so, so improbably it, would publish, see I still no problems. If someone a Domain has and e.g. in the forum this uses, can experience one a quantity. But data-security commissioners see in everything a danger probably occupational. Naja, I is waiting now once, what makes Google from it and whether I will smile once into such a camera. Then poste I the picture times here… 
Which I could also still introduce myself, is the evaluation of the MAC addresses. Over it the manufacturers let themselves be identified, which lets a market share distribution compute surface covering evaluated. Those again is purposefully already used for chain breaks today. The picture can then also here adjust 
Here: http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=214016 there there is a revision modification company, which also makes. Quotation:
0988wk.jpg  Hey Novize *knuff* That is good 
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My SSID reads “Dukommsthiernetrein” The question is only which the collection to bring is Although there are surely so some Komiker those their WLAN “Internet cafe! or similarly call and no coding have. One sees here from time to time more frequently. Those will be pleased if these private households in a map as free WLAN Zugangspunkt to be at one time registered. It does not only concern here SSIDs. WLAN nets give still many further and data of itself, usable in many connections. [Fun] I believe I becomes my net into “google sucks” umbennenen. Whether those become probably stutzig, if many make? [/Spass]
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And to which data google wants ran? Please become times more concrete, talk-max. Without concrete information eurerseits nevertheless the all Stammtischpolemik remains. Is that really better, than the statements on the part of Google? I hardly believe. 
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Guude, and a short statement from my side: I am argumentatively whole with the topic with the Novize.! Google tries momentarily only at the “data gathering” actually.. (…. A marketing purpose will probably be, from which we can only hope here and now that he has then also democratically plausible reasons….) That changes for nevertheless nothing in my opinion that I have the right at least in the apron about it to be informed, which of my data is collected. Exactly that is actually it which me thereby against the line goes. Guude, thus from the principle I give you from full heart right there, but ........ … you uses evtl also a mobile phone (zone detection) a paybackirgendwasshell map. (Sales behavior) and (exemplary) your account leads at a local savings bank/cooperative bank (all kinds of rating and scoring) ...... achja…. … and when did you write current FCB down with those and you anxious around clarifying/the range/contents/passing on of your stored data…?? I assume, as I also, rare (sp)….because the condition unfortunately nowadays is normal…! Quotation:
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G., - #####o: Can't those whole simply intend map, in which place they discovered a WLAN with which MAC address (the MAC address is visible nevertheless also with a coded WLAN, or?) - around then so the owners of WLAN able mobile phones and Netbooks turned around additional MAC addresses was based guideline assistance to give (if e.g. in a house ravine no government inspection department is receiptable)? Quotation:
G., - #####o: Hello together, there are also areas in that people your E-Mail address or a part of your name to the identification inserts, in order for problems with neighbour nets to be accessible (conditions times as tip somewhere, find the source z.zT. not). Is fish with the rough net, but flock makes also muck. A good example are the SSID von hotel W Lans. Greeting Robodrill Supplement: A screen SHOT of my 7270 with neighbouring WLans around 7:45 clock (Hennes net!! ). I type times also on the connection with Google maps, which want that one can locate on the basis the BSSID of the WLANs, where one is approximate. Actually only times no bad idea, only the problem behind it are again the possibility that authorities can make themselves these data too own and resale to possibly dubious people, which really employ then muck thereby. I had also times the Mail in the SSID, have however in the meantime amended in which the inconsequential. If one knew, when the cars drive where, one needs to switch off only the WLAN this day. Letztenlich are nevertheless anyway only all snapshots. Within minutes everything can be differently particularly in large cities. Those are nothing at all good for. One thinks only of the Google maps of pictures from Germany those meanwhile already their 10 year old birthday celebrates. I regard the whole as unproblematic. There are more than one routs, with which one can change BSSID within one minute also. Who in such a manner paranoid is, which concerns its identification and a MAC, which should place perhaps rather times the general use of wLAN infrage. The Buhei around one (further!) Offerer, the existing wLANs cartography ore is to be hardly still borne. Google wants only your best., and/or. evenly cash. That is legitimate, Google is a multi-billion-enterprise and not the Caritas. How do many use already the services gladly and “for one for lau”? Quotation:
If however Google - or otherwise who - ungefragt and without my (explicit or implicit) agreement money with my WLAN infrastructure data to make wants, do not hold I for legitimate. Data want to be free. Ever exact Google a WLAN listing with pertinent key provides the TSO better. Google will not probably seize that in each case “pertinent key”. There it became then even illegaly. My AP is visible. Its name is 5hcre4a0alzrfJY4Arvaf11 and otherwise comes a 00:00: 00: 00: 00: 00* - all this is opened for outstanding ones on a view, which it broadcastet everything industriously outward. If Google wants to really draw from it any conclusions, then they have primarily one, i.e. too much time. * it knows also 11:11: 11: 11: 11: 11; FF: FF: FF: FF: FF: FF etc. its Or you too little marketing Fantasie. A company does not scannt WLAN nets if it with the data nix to begin wants. 1 marketing and management: Mach nothing which you profit will never bring. Google itself does not refuse so long revealing the pertinent business model is acceptable that. It gives Pieces of news perhaps to the topic, and those consider those that everything oh found again their opinion so harmless. Naturally says google it was not at all intended a breakdown and. Is clearly, bldes Gequat 
thus me is veilful, how a Wlan net is present “for positioning if no government inspection department” be used can? thus perhaps I am too stupid, but I have mean ACCESS POINT completely unbedarft simply so somewhere placed where it me fit - and if it does not fit me there any longer, put I also without Ummeldung with Google simply elsewhere Even if I cannot recognize the direct use, then I can only warn - like here already stands: sowas money (and it is only the storage location for the data, as well as the scanners) costs and must pursue thereby a deeper sense, otherwise one does not make sows!!! And my SSID e.g. contains. my email address (although an anonymous GMXmssige), because has everyone, means somehow thus a problem with it to have the possibility to me to announce itself. Is however actually meant for my neighbours and contains then naturally also their visitor, so the Wlan devices operate, that are already clear me. Therefore I would nevertheless not like to regain it in a data base, as actually the whole Streetview dirt. I no problem thereby if someone the road photographed and from me can one in the net place also somewhere, a danger here see I however nevertheless, as soon as the whole becomes standardized callable via data base, which is in keinster way comparably with “times nen photo” makes. But most people are to be recognized much too unimaginatively over the also only ansatzweise dangerous potential behind Streetview How can WLANs in the proximity for positioning by mobile phone without government inspection department to be used? That is completely trivial. Google map (and Apple by the way also!) looks first times, at which transmitting pole you is announced. Then a blue circle around the respective transmitting pole indicated and there stands for mobile phones without WLAN wars then: “Your place of residence within 600, 1000, 1500m (depending on). If that has mobile phone now WLAN (and it is switched on), then can you the remainder nearly imagine… It looked, whether any well-known ACCESS POINTs are in the proximity, then the large blue circle already clearly… By the way: That Google offers now generously to seize together with Streetview photos no more WLANs is pure Augenwischerei: They have that, just as as Apple, also not at all necessarily. They receive the allocations for their data base comfortably over all mobile phones, the government inspection departments and WLAN at the same time switched on - and of it there might be again and again times which - and if there is only the people with itself at home… Quotation:
How Google wants to agree upon with philosophy “DO NO evil”, the enterprise must explain to us only times. See also http://www.golem.de/1005/75133.html. There Google becomes then also immediately from the Saulus to the Paulus, from the data collecting tank to the commisioner for data protection. Quotation:
Here still another little reading material for the weekend… heise Besides I have that today in the radio gehhrt also in this course the email addresses scanned to have. Comment of the reporter: “For Google data security is a foreign word” Quotation:
http://www.ippf.eu/showpost.php?p=1527557&postcount=22 I risk it times to catch me one point here: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/mobil...551116,00.html e.g. but! Now, which became probably scanned, are data, which ran over unencrypted WLAN nets. That few seconds might have been, only i.e. at the speed of the vehicle. no large data sets - however enough. It is personally veilful me, as one can seize “by mistake” data from WLANs, if one looks for actually only SSIDs or MACs. It would thus if necessary be here. to subordinate another intention, which probably in the serviceability of information of the WLAN distribution and the distribution in particular open WLANs lies. Which really aims at Google thereby, might never come to the daylight, because so far on the part of Google was in each case admitted and regretted, what already knew the public. --gandalf. Quotation:
Completely after that moth: “Talk all day long and however nevertheless nothing said” and if, only what everyone is clear
I could comb times after the Thread now posts where was said nevertheless all this am as harmless and so a little SSID scanning nevertheless am not so bad…
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G., - #####o: Am I to believe seriously that in this technikaffinen forum nobody has Kismet or a similar product in the employment, had, already times saw, inadvertently in use took, consciously in the employment have, wardriving operate actively, the net of its neighbour now scanned have etc.? And then a company comes along, which nevertheless actually measures results” in a volume (5Ghz are not probably to have been eh at the beginning to) within 0.2 seconds “. Which are to be? Whole enamels with top secret information? Naked pictures with the marriage wife of the boss, who is suddenly embarrassing one? It goes - so at least standing admitted to me around approximately 600GB at waste data, which resulted besides. 600GB across Germany, which are probably not even also into the index guessed/advised. 600GB from a nevertheless hopefully not representative quantity of used hardware and users. I can even imagine that those are really waste data, because they do not place value for Google with security or danger for oh the so poor spied ones. Times honestly: Here are humans, who regulate their whole alleged life over Google. Enamel, calendar, documents. Photos are high-loaded into Clouds, to Android on the terminal, geoday-went are also oh so practically, here still another Gratisblog and there still few pictures present for all, which do not want to see it really. Free software? Gladly, and perhaps still another Toolbar in addition? You're welcome. The Desktopsuche - for which one needs sowas? - is also nice, like Google. Only locally. Or nevertheless not? No matter, to harm it cannot. Or nevertheless? Now however information emerged that Google is nevertheless bad. What makes the bent user there? It informs its Facebookfreunde. All 1.000! And from the sign he is everywhere in the 2.0er-Sozialnetzwerk announced also, finally, in order to miss only nothing. It is not twittered also, that that does not receive someone. Which these companies with its data (which at all?) do, interests it not. Moin badly, always these panic-makes. What do they want to begin with the data? Who its W-Lan-net does not secure has anyway a legal problem thereby. I can follow thereby only my previous speaker. Moin. I consider the whole hysteria also exaggerated. Some do not have yet times a virus scanner on your PC, but move on it (open) WLAN became scanned. That is, as if will I mean entry door checkfishing rod far openly stand all day long to let, and me weight if one me which from the dwelling geklaut. Naturally a company may not such as Google make which it wants, but if I hear then these populist politicians, how they excite themselves artificially, in the same breath however for the large wire-tapping am, come up one nevertheless the coffee. From my view that is two different aspects. Point 1: Do not panic-make is attached reliably, but we would not be pleased also, if someone goes and checks through a multi-storey car park, which doors at the cars are open… or by the place, which windows and doors at the houses are not final. Just as little one may photograph or film by the open windows into houses inside. Point 2: apart from the question, which was seized, further the question about the use arises and whether Google this may rightfully so. Finally it does not only go thereby around geographically over a region, but house or even haushaltsweise located data. Everything that is possible, is always also permitted. --gandalf. Quotation:
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Google is in systematic way gone into the open houses, however the months-long denied strictly and only now confessed. May be, but it is no more break-down. Probably not. Nevertheless clearly a border was exceeded. There is not a cause for panic or hysteria. One should minimize the procedure in addition, not as stupid boy caper. Quotation:
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G., - #####o: The border is called for me: I do not have to look for another anything in (W) the LAN, even if this is unencrypted. If all would not think in such a way would have we these whole discussions. That is very commendablly only as soon as with such data money to be earned is, the education probably sets with many or whatever unfortunately out. Thus it not already to end is: >>>click<<<
Logo, burglars must know the Enterhaken to be as long must. Certainly are also naked scanners on board
But once fun to the side clearing and trousers down. Google should now finally once openly put, which exactly they collect, for which purpose and like for a long time the data where is stored. Then is peace with the Spekulatius and everyone knows, how it is to hide itself, its WLan and its house. They can make a blueprint my house (my dwelling) calmly, mean Kopp also, if they can. Which concerns my private data, they see only:Dwarf away with Ring.JPG Quotation:
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Now they admitted that they make also 3D-Scans of the houses and that would be (allegedly) already for years well-known. , I find salami tactics. And of it I heard up to now also still nothing. I do not have against Street View in the city centers, where there are objects of interest, elsewhere am it nice ton have, but to be absolute it does not have, particularly since one can provide also of in the meantime quite highly dissolving Satellitenaufnahmen an overview. There I already discovered (old) the car of our neighbour before our house. The photographs probably are in our area from the year 2003. Here again the newspaper with 4 letters, which none read, but the largest edition erziehlt… Quotation:
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G., - #####o: Perhaps does not gesurft, but so Google could be forced to put once openly which exactly they actually collect and where the data are deposited. That remains however everything in the fog, which will still for a long time not get thinner…
I am something surprised over the public eclat because of Google's WLAN Scannerei with the Streetview Erfassunng, because the data are probably collected in very long cycles and have neither quality nor topicality of the WLAN data, them already for at least 1-2 years by means of Google map scanning. Who an WLAN able mobile phone with Google map (e.g. Nokia with Symbian or a Android equipment) possesses and with switched on WLAN Google map uses, already betrays for at least 1-2 years apart from its own government inspection department position the BSSID and MAC address of its WLAN Routers, from which also the position of even this results. Years ago already it noticed to me that Google map already located me exactly before <government inspection department positioning on 20m, if I were over my WLAN in it, whose position obviously before and BSSDI/MAC I unnoticed betrayed. It became completely clear then, as I UMTS/WLAN routing approx. 1500km far away from Germany abroad used, where Google had seized obviously the data of this Routers over my Nokia N95 with Google map. Although I these rout then a friend for the employment inland lent, it in addition (new SSID), located Google map that friend (mind you over its own Motorola Milestone, which never before in this rout was in-booked) at that 1500km had completely again configured to removed location, where I had him before in the enterprise. It participated interesting that Google preferred obviously the before seized WLAN position the data, which one could win on the basis portable radio net width unit. Although thus due to the portable radio network identification (262-03, eplus) and ZellenID surely also admitted were clear the fact that it would have to be in Germany indicated Google map as its location that 1500km entferneten place to it. Google scannt over each WLAN able mobile phone owing to Google map our WLAN nets including its position. The fact that one echauffiert oneself over the Scannerei of the Streetview vehicles is almost ridiculous before this background! At all the discussion is considerable paranoid. I find it actually quite geil that one has a rather precise positioner version so without government inspection department (one not as I rout through half Europe at least so long carries). Quotation:
Seizing the information by mobile phone, the forwarding of the scanned data to a central collecting point and also the active detection by comparison of the local WLAN environment with the collected data pay finally the mobile users over their on-line data cost account. Whether all user of such mobile phones knows and wants also so, I do not know. Paranoid to it is that is not evident to me, how these data records would know ever someone damage. The fear at the latest before data collections circulated for the 70's and until today I do not see serious disadvantages at least by private data collecting tanks. With directly personal data, let I objections still apply, but the position from WLANs to the state secret to define, is simply completely inclined. Those political participants, who form themselves there now with polarizing mixer criticism, agreed a few years ago still another externally stored data storage. At all I see direct disadvantages so far alone in national data collection rage and v.a. the softening once defined intended purposes of those data. The duty logging system is one of many examples, where the objective of total monitoring was from the outset evident - there were technically dozens, matured and above all more favorable alternatives. A goal was to be created however since more jeher simple a monitoring infrastructure. With the Google eclat one diverts from many more serious national data collections. With Google I see rather large potential for security and health-relevant applications, e.g. the position transmission with the emergency call, which on the basis net-lateral detection and government inspection department v.a. indoor imprecisely is to impossible. The public hand is in this connection much too slow-acting and unable. With somewhat more skillful public work and the surely not very difficult development of a emergency call Plugins for Google map they could provide large support. Quotation:
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Honestly said me a data collection is less unpleasant by (at least after the idea) democratically legitimized instances than by multinational large concerns with on one side material interest. On first I have at least in principle influence; on the latters not. Both should be controlled and be examined with obvious offences become, as now with Google. You e.g. see which concrete damage. by the collected duty data? Quotation:
G., - #####o: That is not called however still for a long time that I give strangers thereby implicitly permission, the information, to gather which these waves contain, to arbitrary extent on a long-term basis to strongholds or thus business models by use for own services or passing on/sales to create. It would have to be different: Google or other data collecting tanks would have to ask explicitly for permission whether these data may be seized and used commercially. Privatsphre does not make also at property borders stop. Not without reason one can let pictures of the own house delete with Streetview. License numbers and faces must be made unrecognizable. One must probably ask you for permission whether one may regard you, if you run around on the road. G., - #####o: Regard, but when private person not without agreement photograph and the pictures use --> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild. @gandalf: unfortunately is also not all prohibition: which possible however is morally questionable. Google would have IMO simply in different media admits to give to be able, when which range is photographed. Everyone, which did not want to have to be seen on pictures or whose W-Lan should not become scanned then within the own responsibility everything close have made could… Yes, which should have re-activated municipalities the disaster alarm sirens, which warn the population in sifting of Google vehicles would have can. In addition pool of broadcasting corporations and Second Channel of German Television would be obligated been in the television suitable preventive measures to show (paper bags cover or on the soil put flat and the face from the road to turn away, after one covered women and children). You laugh now certain, but several of my friends already lost their souls, which are imprisoned now always in Streetview (corner citizen of Berlin road/lock road) by Google. Quotation:
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G., - #####o: Hello, Last night it got off in the messages with NDR2 somewhat that Google its travels into Germany, if necessary. world-wide, to adjust wants. Property in addition however still nothing written found
I am surprised only as much one at the collecting passion of Google excite myself, but none notices like he since that 1.1.2010 over the new ELENA system by the state is spied. In this system not only the salary, but among other things also false days (illness) and notices are stored on the part of the employer. Here I have many more the fears that the data against the citizen to be used. Quotation:
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@Sven Thanks
Coincidentally straight ran down in the run course of the RSS Tickers (Firefox). If those stop that now world-wide, that makes me already again thoughtful, why. I hardly believe that only as much the vehicles have, in order to take in a country the photographs. Quotation:
One should not minimize or justify Googles Sammelei here with the fact that there are also different (precarious) data collecting tanks. One has to do however with the other one only conditionally. Such confrontations are exactly taken offtopic. @ RiVen, which should be that to it offtopic, finally became already a few sides in former times about it talked and it should only show like nevertheless all concerns around their achso holy WLAN data make themselves, everyone with something specialized knowledge measure can and the collecting rage of father state. In addition I do not justify the data collection of Google, but there are more important things. I would like to see times your reaction if you times to the labour office must and one say to you, which you veschuldet the notice (sowas with ELENA collected without objection possibility) and thus no money kriegst. Only one example is, but realistic. There also a constitutional challenge does not help, because the data are further-collected and guaranteed also not destroyed, should the complaint existed to have. Oh, nearly vegessen offtopic -> off )
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As individual values the WLAN data are worthless practically, as almost complete collection in combination with accurate geo positions no more. Still a few new messages to the topic today: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...n-1007963.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...e-1009256.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...t-1009279.html (For Schummeleien with offices to the receipt not being entitled achievements at expense of the public I have by the way also no understanding.) The data can be stored due to the extent only on instruction from above. Since m u should be drawn off ss before exactly considered its why the data ...... and which is now with the deletion. Are there Backups, if where and how many???? 1. The quantitative range of the data in gigabyte is well-known you? These enormous data sets will have brought Google surely almost to the edge of server bottlenecks. Such a substanzielles risk can have been arranged certainly only by right at the top. Perhaps of the Marsianern? 2. Since “m u did not consider ss” anybody, on the contrary: The explanation on the part of Google is going by stimmig and for everyone also little notion of the thing absolutely comprehensible. Times the Htchen removes, the aluminum foil can you in the kitchen more meaningfully use. Quotation:
 False flag call some sowas. Rhineland-Palatinate wants federation complaint right against Street View “Past corner points of the draft plan that faces and Kfz characteristics must be made unrecognizable, before data are placed in the net, and that shown humans, owners of house and their tenants an unrestricted right to object receive… “ http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...w-1025685.html And the “federation” measuring ELT it then, similarly as at that time the trick with Stevia. Quotation:
Apple has completely obviously also no problem with collecting and memory (and passing on) of extensive data sets: http://www.teltarif.de/iphone-daten-...ews/39228.html, http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...n-1029687.html. Quotation:
There white I however not at all which you against it have! The “practical” use outweighs in the long term for all sides. Travel book does not have to lead one now no more up, simply with Steve call. Apple becomes surely soon alibi standard. If nevertheless please still the micro more active, then I knew me also Diary and note book save and my whole Outlook in addition. And again it happened: Are straight in Zurich, in a private WPA coded WLAN in-booked me and although I had deactivated government inspection department on my Motorola Milestone, my position was encircled in Google map with a ~20m-Ring. And no, not a Femto or a pico-cell concerns in which I straight would be in-booked and thus the exact locating would make possible, because as soon as I deactivate WLAN and thus the Positionsbestimmmung is only made by the cell of the portable radio net, the circle has suddenly a diameter of >1km and I am not in its center. Proof the fact that Google spies the positions of WLANs long over Google map user which owing to millions of users is by far more effective than European-wide a dozen of collection vehicles. |
