Is a Huawei K3520 VoIP equipment in the sense of the IPPF flea market rules? - VoIP General, VoIP News, VoIP Providers, VoIP hardware, VoIP software, VoIP Technology

My Thread, where I three K3520 had sold, for chan_datacard are outstanding suitable one deleted. The deleting Mod was the opinion that it is not VoIP accessories. The mentioned Mod in all other respects meant that a AVM WLAN stick (not N) would be OK ONE, because one can make a Streaming stick from it. A WLAN stick N is against the rules. The AVM Repeater is then however again rule conformal (thus in the flea market permits). So its statements.

Strange to say one was the buyer for one the K3520) another Mod. He meant that it is very probably actually VoIP accessories.
How is your opinion? Co-ordinate simply.

Everyone IP- Equipment is a VoIP- Equipment.

In my opinion offering the sticks would go into order - even if it is in my opinion no VoIP equipment.

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# [...] inadmissible are inbesondere requirements/requests after pure PC hardware, hardware parts, portable radio devices without VoIP functionality or individual Handy accessories.

Me the rules are there actually also mismatching. If one stretches oneself and itself thereby still to death subsummiert, one knows nearly each equipment with LAN adapter, each “radio operator” with 900, 1,800, 1,900, 54 to etc. somehow into the range “bring VoIP” or “IPTV”. And it is any routs, also as AP to serve could over then still in the last corner of the pointed soil theoretical telephoning by wLAN on that iPhone make possible

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Quotation of woprr

Everyone IP- Equipment is a VoIP- Equipment.

Thus also a laptop, since I can install on it a Softphone?

No, a laptop is mainfunctionally a computer and no IP equipment, also the marketing name “Netbook” changes in it nothing.

Aha …

As, aha? How you defined? Application layer?

I consider the K3520 quite acceptable. - When VoIP interesting has I your offer regarded - and if I did not possess straight two UMTS sticks, would quite be for me from interest. Particularly since in combination with 7270 VoIP (although usually illegally of the portable radio enterprises) is quite possible.

Hello,

A tuning over it becomes my modest opinion after nothing (!) bring. The Mods/Admins should itself if at all, builds up and with cosy dte over the fact to meet as the rules are to be defined possibly again and these then exactly and unmistakably writes down. (Which they are actually.)

See Flea market rules Point 3:
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Only such devices may do and/or. only such software may offered and/or. are inquired, the one clear Purchase to VoIP and/or. IP-TV have/have.

In addition surely count no Lan cables, Switche, TK-plants, which one can operate at a Fritz box,…
I discussed already once briefly with one the responsible persons and saw that he did not lie correctly and I.

Actually the discussion should end, since they do not regulate the existing will change.

We must probably discuss the rules internally again.

I have yourself with the offer also in demand whether (un) is suitable, because I look for such a stick (if that reads someone -> PM to me!).

I find also that that the Admins/Mods under itself to constitute should, because nearly everyone here has finally another opinion in addition so which we that, thinks I, not on a denominator will bring.

thus to delete simply in such a way I find the Thread already completely beautifully happig.
Particularly since the situation is obviously not times clear. So radical I do not know out different forums…

just my 2 cents
- sparkie

So “simply like that” deleted that was probably not even, because as per. PsychoMantis had it nevertheless contact with mA, that it its view of the things darlegts. I understand the opening contribution SO anyhow…
Seen of it I read off in the flea Mark rules Quotation:

The operator of the forum or represented by the administrators or moderators reserves itself, Postings those not the above mentioned. Rules correspond without deleting comment to close or.

sparkie, therefore you should take yourself back times somewhat more.

I think a Huawei K3520 am VoIP equipment. Because on (on internal SD) one can install a live Ubuntu for inclusive Asterisk (with chan_datacard) drauf and thus of each PC a GSM and/or. VoIP gateway make.

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Quotation of woprr

Everyone IP- Equipment is a VoIP- Equipment.

Each VoIP- Equipment is in IP- Equipment.

is glad, which you did not receive a warning

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Quotation of Bask

I think a Huawei K3520 am VoIP equipment.

With protectionness it is not an VoIP equipment, because the part is not has Micro and a loudspeaker to the voippen, and also no connection for nen telephone.
It is imo also no direct accessory, like e.g. the Y-cable for the Fritz boxes.
It is a link to the Internet, as a UMTS modem is it simple entrance equipment, like a DSL modem or also a cable modem. BTW: What is actually with a 56K modem? Also is the “VoIP equipment”?
Finally one can go also with to on-line in order voippen afterwards compressed.

Where is the border?

[[meine_Meinung_on]
Oh Kinners, which brings this whole Diskutiererei here?!
Me before a few months also times a Gigaset SL56 without comment deleted, also because of “not VoIP”.
I was/am also the opinion that it is in the broader sense, if at the box over Dect announced and I can telephone thus over VoIP VoIP equipment.
But then 2-3 PN's were back and forth sent between me and the Mods, and was good. Then I the thing stop with ebay reingeflappt, and finally more gotten as I had required here.
That was already before clear me, with the whole ebay Bimbos, but I think first of the Leutchen here

Thus take it nevertheless simply times if the Mods certain things decide.
Would become you the same Enthusiasmuss with div. political decisions of our government to the day put, did not certainly go to our country firing at in such a way
[meine_Meinung_off]

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Quotation of colonia27

That was already before clear me, with the whole ebay Bimbos, but I think first of the Leutchen here

This is also my opinion. Quotation:

That is correct however.

@ Novize
A k56-Modem is not an VoIP equipment. But why you approve then the sales of e.g. a WLAN stick, which one can use for the Streaming or a WLAN Repeater?
Those are rhetorical questions.
We are nevertheless times honest us. The rules concerning. Do not sell are perfect momentarily. It is nevertheless really Bldsinn, if someone may not sell its DECT equipment here.
Naturally everything should not be permitted here now. Notebooks, PC, PlayStation - that has to do really nothing with VoIP or Telefonie. But so things such as UMTS sticks or DECT devices should be permitted. Those are besides little things (from the price) and I find, it am not worthwhile myself at all to consider whether one is to delete so a Verkaufsthread or not. The mentioned UMTS sticks by the way got away all. One of it got a Mod. And still another Mod asked me by pn whether I do not have still one. Why by pn? Because one no Thread to provide may with the title “search k3520”.

Thus Mods & Admins. Loosens the rules nevertheless somewhat. Only a completely small little.

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Quotation of PsychoMantis

Thus Mods & Admins. Loosens the rules nevertheless somewhat. Only a completely small little.

To where, as far, for whom, for which, why, ........... without end….
[I times so completely personally]
The whole discussion turns here in circles…
If, represent themselves the forum line through… see rules… decided, how it continues here, it will explain itself clearly and unmistakably here

[/Ich times so completely personally]

The rules of the flea market take Eventualtitten off for the moment not all, that are correct. I consider the rules and our manual interferences however sufficient, in order to keep the flea market “in the grasp”.

Finally here the same reference (“house right”) applies as with all Postings in the forum.

When “conclusion” one could not have formulated that better,
of therefore it in my opinion…