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Complaints office for Spam in Germany2011-01-11 | |||||||||||||||||
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can someone say to me whether and if necessary universe where in Germany a complaints office exists for Spam? There are nevertheless meanwhile laws, which punish the not ordered dispatch of enamels under place. But run then each time directly to the lawyer? Are unfortunately too rare in Germany, in order to exactly pursue the development of this topic. It concerns to me concretely GMX, which sends unwanted again and again to me mails. The dreiste to it: quite expensive from addresses, to which one cannot answer, and at all it does not seem with GMX not one email contact address in the support to give, but only liable to pay the costs () telephone numbers always come. Genuinly glaringly for email more provider… That we quite understand themselves: it concerns to me the principle. I could delete of them mails naturally simply like all the other scrap iron (viagra, clocks and which gives it otherwise still in such a way). But if one can assign already times concretely such a unwanted post office to someone, one would have to be able to proceed nevertheless also against it. Who says to me, how? Greetings Chris Quotation:
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Greeting, Yielding pool of broadcasting corporations Is already mad, as ask again and again in this forum are answered, which were not placed at all. , 6, topic sets yielding pool of broadcasting corporations missed. Since I promised, me in the forum no longer too ereifern, I let it thereby, only the reference bewenden that I am paying user with GMX (ProMail, but any longer is not enough). If someone which to the initially posed ask to say has - ask much. Beautiful remainder Sunday still Chris As answer to the “actual” question I could http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Beschwerdestell...in+Deutschland offer…  Further one left for complaints with the respective Provider: http://www.abuse.net/lookup.phtml On the question not-posed: Also in the ProMail tariff you agree the receipt of Werbemails of GMX. But well. Greeting, Yielding pool of broadcasting corporations For Spam there is no central approach place in Germany. One must this over the Provider (abuse address to find out over “WHOIS”) and/or. if necessary. the federal net agency in-tilt. In some cases one could refund also an announcement against “unknown”, if this represents pursuit-worthy facts. That comes however always on the individual case on… --gandalf. Quotation:
Oops, so many answer and I have no notification gekriegt… ! Thank you to all. Left to “Internet complaints office“looks interesting, I that will times test. Do not promise me too much of it, but if one never which tries, changes also never which. To the thing: there is not the usual GMX werbemails one freemail accounts, over which I do not excite myself - the wars I as a paying customer actually. But I quit my ProMail account (does not ask rather, like I created that, it months took and felt dozens from enamels used), and since then war I regularly winselmails over all the beautiful predivide, which will soon escape me, because I quit ProMail. All that would not be in such a way badly, if it opt out one mechanism gave, as that is actually right oneself. But as mentioned above, these always come mails from addresses, to which one cannot answer. That is, those shoot their marketing garbage from safe distance and shear themselves one *** drum, as this arrives with the addressee. That marketing department does not know, how difficult it was, at all from this toggle contract rauszukommen, cannot not accuse I it, but that she does not give me a possibility to terminate this bombardment it annoys me excessively. Well times sees, what from the complaint becomes. Interested, I will report Wenn's you here if necessary universe of reactions. Beautiful evening Chris Quotation:
Thus one thanks others the one to help wants. Some genuinly no assistance earned. … said the Neulung to two people here, those to 5 and/or. 6 years on the way are. And it is right in principle…
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I find it rather sad that it a beginner write must. @cmmehl I must einschleimen myself with nobody and have it also not necessarily. I find it only sadly as some behave myself here. If one its question correctly formulated does not get one also no suitable answer. Does someone try to answer nevertheless to behave itself entitled it to a Treadstarter in such a way? My opinion does not show it only one the bad education “around assistance asking” if one a someone to help wants then treats one this like “low” personnel. Quotation:
Quotation: Fax ne demand for omission with redress menace because of compulsion (?) Ask publish here times an example text in addition. Or a left in addition, I find otherwise only mismatching bei'm search. thanks ! (one says here also rarely) @cmmehl I do not want now meckern however I would also still find it around some simple your writing to read, if you would adhere to appropriate “capitalizing rules”. Nothing for bad & @Papa Andy: That was appropriate for me already on the keyboard Suitably the topic there is today an article with teltarif.de The self-advertisement with GMX and Web.de become loose jo Quotation:
In my opinion is the respect more in principle regulates the grammar (e.g. the difference between accusative and dative, which do not post office-end all in this thread to be common seem) for the comprehensibility of a text decided more importantly than the large and lower case. Likewise its structuring into logical paragraphs and the correct use of the punctuation. Since I am addressed however always this topic, I was written a small additive into the signature - specially for people like you! Actually I regret many more the rape of the umlauts, which read my contributions really difficult, but there have I unfortunately not many possibilities. I could let one naturally each time run spellcheck over the text, but that is nevertheless very toilsome. And - hey! - I do not live finally abroad and have stop a German keyboard. But if my contributions are to be understood you too with difficulty - let it remain simple! I will be able to live thereby. Likewise nix for bad! Chris Quotation:
=> request for understanding rejected. You make a giant eddy around not desired Mails in your p.o. box and spread your write Spam in the forum => Schreiberei without write rules are even as unwanted as Werbemails and thus likewise bh - seizes you times to your own nose  Oh besides: Large lower case belongs like other grammar rules also to the orthography. There there is no difference! Wrongly is wrongly and thus badly (it) readable! Quotation:
But no so good idea, faxes is eh no, the fax number ne service number worked on there will nevertheless be probably and if nevertheless then the cancellation without notice will have to be feared the Mailaccount surely still bergangsweise as reaction, and it needs. I wrd the Thunderbird Spam filter on this Bettelmails train and well is. @ cmmehl: Your eagerness in all honours, and, me nerves this Spam Mails exactly the same. Of Viagra nerve-end to favorable offers of credit. But if it would give a state institution against Spam, then I think, the reaction way seeeeehr for a long time would last. In my opinion it is a fight against windmills. The Spammer can again and again which new be broken in over not flown up and/or. in order to smear their traces. But meanwhile there are nevertheless all right good defense mechanisms like e.g. Anti-Spam filter of the Providern, also of GMX. Or the Spamihilator that the Spam arising to a minimum reduces. I personally would welcome it if it with the Spam flood would become less, but there are to buy stop now times people those the stuff and/or. on such Mails and thus makes the Spammer a profit falls and continues prettily. @Elsi29 with the anonymous senders that is safe a fight against windmills, and none fears for, I white already, how one erwehrt oneself such attacks. My point (and the actual thread topic) is however another: if a well-known company spammt there, one should be able to proceed against it. At least should in each such mail one opt out possibility to be provided. And so a standard should, in my opinion, already by a national places reproduction to be provided. Because of few Spam mails a more in inbox reg' I me certainly not up. GMX was only one example, it gives reliably more there of it. That will probably last everything its time to hardly contain exactly the same as at that time the advertising flood in the mail box at first was, and finally nearly completely disappeared. @woprr Hach, the waer however beautifully so fast a cancellation without notice (and with it concomitantly end to the payment obligation) from GMX to wars! But you do not know the association apparent (still) well enough - one becomes acquainted with fastest, if one wants to quit a liable to pay the costs offer! Pro beer nevertheless times…  more @Voip-Skeptiker When you actually last times which reasonable or on-topic wrote? I times your contributions to beginning of the yearly examined, without finding which - afterwards gave up ich's, because nausea became too strong. Go nevertheless elsewhere trollen…  Greetings Chris teltarif.de today in addition: http://www.teltarif.de/gmx-web-de-fr...ews/38412.html Read does you the Threads, before you something pos test? See here so which - like I could only… Quotation:
Until I times 1&1 ordered and recalled and still lasting for weeks with all kinds of advertisement and Charitybettelei does not know me to have then filled up, I no more like I those at that time is concerned however must have worked, the answer read “… you to become we to note!” and the Spams stopped Then have I experienced that in the meantime under United the Internet were married and are from annoyance over such “customer friendliness” too googlemail otherwise was I heut still with GMX. To add as quality feedback to the “business model” would be still that the advertisement my consumer profile rarely met, otherwise wrs been interesting. I have a question still: I remember that there were in former times once so-called “tar pots”, which accepted the repeated sending of Mails only after minutes of break it is one had an expensive professional account. Furthermore Mails were accepted only by “listed” servers, small Mailserver had with the large by the tar pot. That sounded hopeful, I however for a long time nix more of it heard. Where here was the mistake in reasoning, why itself this not worked satisfactorily? Thank you for your opinions in addition. “Tar of pit” are to let “genuine” enamels through, while Spam and messages with unclear source are only very slowly spread. That was the idea with the trustworthy and less trustworthy sources of enamels. Today one makes simpler and decentralized with DNSBL. --gandalf. Quotation:
Greylisting and Spamassassin &Co are the professional solution. Quotation:
Do not know the features of the current version, I Mach only Greylisting because Thunderbird SA's job makes here. You recommend thus to Spamassassin, although you do not know, what it do. And I assume it is legally at least so awkward to accept the email but not to read, because the Spam filter segregated it, because here can the receiver assume it was set. In the other case he gets at least one feedback that those was not accepted email. Quotation:
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What has to do the whole here actually still with the original topic? Particularly since the Threadersteller has anyway no possibility obviously for the moment of writing something to the topic. I would find it fair to therefore close this Thread before it is gekapert still to further topic-strange discussion. 
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Since nothing new comes here more, I close times. --gandalf. |
