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2010-09-03
 
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Rear one,

I do not have now two hours searched for a clear Antowort on my question unfortunately can I find.

Therefore my problem:

I want me the Fritz! Box hair dryer WLAN 7170 add.

Those has now a haven for hair dryer 1-3

I would like to use only Internet Telefonie and the similar connection not to the plant plugs because it only more expensively if one ne phone flat.

How much I can lead telephone calls at the same time to the haven for similar to hair dryer 1-3.

That is called at the same time also as much PIN's is occupied the RJ-12 socket either
2 or 4 or 6.

Please answers fast me, is important.


Thanks in the Vorraus
Since I am not safe to 100%, is somewhat careful with my answer.

But I believe you can on all three lines, thus similar to 1-3 parallel telephone.

Presupposed it takes part in your DSL line and you uses an appropriate VoIP Provider (where one can telephone on three lines at the same time raus).

I hope continue to bring you…

Greeting
master tester
It notes however that you are then no longer callable on your fixed net call number.
Calls to the fixed net network of not Voip callers of the same Providers always come by fixed net!
Three parallel discussions are possible. At the plug 6 pins are occupied, which are implemented with the adapter for 3 separate hair dryer connections.
What is your problem actually?
I believe we can you still more help.
@pabloborsum
The similar telephones and the cable for the similar local loop closes as described in the manual to the FB7050.
In that Web upper subject with telephone-IE/Internet-telephone-IE/extended attitudes Fixed net spare connection use do not activate and/or deactivate if it was activated.
Your telephones will then function in such a way like you it having want.
Hello,

I try exactly the same. I have a telephone on Fon1 and one on Fon2.

Fon1 always ran, Fon2 is again and a rather old bone. If I take now the listener off from Fon2, then I get a free character and that telephone folds also. If Fon1 is however used, first also a free character comes with Fon2, but after the first selected number occupies indication comes.

Have you an idea?
I use the LCR software. Can that be a problem?


Greeting,
Hendrik
Which range has your DSL?
With DSL1000 e.g. functions. also not always.
Hello,
the range is DSL 2000. In addition there is the fixed net. the Fritz box has thus the choice zw. Internet and fixed net.

Greeting,
Hendrik
Jain!
  1. First I would test times another telephone,
  2. or the telephones times exchange,
  3. and then also times without the LCR!
There there are many possible sources of error with you too.

Which VoIP Provider use does you?
Hello,

I now found the following out:
1) If only one telephone is used, everything, no matter, folds which telephone is used.
2) If both telephones are used, selecting the last does not function. All the same whether it the new, or which is old telephone.
3) If both telephones are used, and I with the *121# selecting last preselect, fold it.

It seems thus nearly, as if it would be because of the choice rules.

Have you ne idea, where I can now search?

Greeting,
Hendrik
Would be nice, if you everything Would follow to references
and/or. in this case also would answer questions!
Hello Thomas,

1. First I would test times another telephone,

I made that. I exchanged also the connections. Insg. I tested three telephones and with all same behavior tightened.

2. or the telephones times exchange,

s.o.

3. and then also times without the LCR!

I made that over the *121#.
Or is it possible to deactivate the LCR temporarly completely?

Gruss&Danke,
Hendrik
Which is hereby:

Quotation:
Quotation of RudatNet ...
Which VoIP Provider use does you?

With me the busy signal comes if I with hair dryer 1 over the fixed net telephones and one then at hair dryer 2 also a number selects normally over the fixed net is sent. Is also somehow logical. Only Handynummern does not continue to concern thus tragically with me.
You have similar fixed net?

Then that is naturally logical,
however then does not very much have to do with the topic here!?
Hello,

yes, I have similar fixed net. That should function however nevertheless nevertheless.
VOIP Provider are GMX and Sipgate. Sorry, which had I surveyed.

Greeting,
Hendrik
Quotation:
Quotation of henfri ... yes, I have similar fixed net. That should function however nevertheless nevertheless.
...
No,… not like you described it!
Hello Thomas,

ok, which is here the “Showstopper” in my configuration (apart from the similar connection)?
What would I have to make, so that it functions?

Gruss&Danke,
Hendrik
It is only the similar connection.
Over similarly only one discussion does not go, more!

If you want several discussions, at least one must run of it over VoIP.


Quotation:
Quotation of pabloborsum I would like to use only Internet Telefonie and the similar connection not to the plant plugs
!! Similar to connection must nevertheless to!!
Emergency call goes always over fixed net and attainable to you otherwise also not over fixed net.
Hello mega,

clearly that only one discussion goes over similarly. But you box should not switchen automatically on available in each case?

Speak:
One telephones over similarly -> further discussion over VOIP
One telephones over VOIP -> further discussion over [cheapest according to choice rules]

Well, alternatively - if it no other possibility gives) - I could firmly place also the second telephone on VOIP…

Greeting,
Hendrik
Quotation:
Quotation of henfri ... But you box should not switchen automatically on available in each case?
No, the FBF cannot do that!
That knows the box nevertheless!

Have I 2 discussions over ISDN to run, all the same whether by the box or without, a 3tes, 4tes, 5tes goes over VoIP.

In the case of ISDN disturbance ' s goes only over similarly and if that cannot be done also, over VoIP.
Sorry mega,
the box can above the describing unfortunately evenly not automatically!
No disturbances are present in the above case!
Nevertheless, I know habs degrees only tried out.
Or should behave with similarly differently than with ISDN?

I a discussion with nem telephone direct at NTBA made and then for 2 with the mobile parts of the Gigasets. The discussion started last with the Gigaset goes then by VoIP.
And all devices were so preset that they should use fixed net?
And which VoIP account did the FBF take with the last discussion?
Yes.
all telephones have a Festnetz MSN as outgoing MSN.
Ever the number 0800-3301900 is called.
There are no choice rules, which change in it which.

The first voIP number is then always used, even if the outgoing fixed net number is the 2te.
VoIP 1 is Sipgate, VoIP 2 is T-Online.
, Honestly said I find that to Hmm now even somewhat precarious.

But all the same:
Now one would have to test only times with similar fixed net.

Which firmware uses you?
Firmware 7170: 29.04.21
Firmware W900V: 34.04.21

Today I it tested, like it the connection diagram shows (thus the speed haven makes that everything).
In the 7170 no VoIP numbers are active, hang there only because of JFRitz (and because of WLAN WDS).

I have also times with the Fritz! Box alone tested, same firmware design. Those behaves there exactly directly.

At similar net I it degrees also with the speed haven tested. Speed haven to the Teledat, remainder after plan.
And I a while ago which wrong wrote: With ISDN loss ' s goes only by VoIP.
Have thus the speed haven on similarly changed over around to test.
Then over 2 Gigasets raustelefoniert, first goes by similar, the 2te makes then VoIP.

The clay/tone as with do not dropbake andersrum one comes in these cases. It is indicated only by Displaymessage.
Which me such a little disturbs with your test is that you occupied before the FBF the S0, and thus IMHO for the FBF the bus is disturbed actually!?

I tested also times:
  1. I assigned HAIR DRYER to 3 only a Festnetz MSN,
  2. a Rufmleitung “immediately” adjusted to my mobile phone and
  3. all disturbing choice rules deleted.
A: Now I call myself over the S0 von Festnetz to fixed net.
-> The Rufumleitung does not function!

B: I call the Festnetz MSN of FON3 over VoIP
-> functions the Rufumleitung perfectly!
  • In the case A all B-channels are occupied, why the RU cannot function.
    => The FBF switches not automatically on VoIP over!
  • In the case B a B-channel for the RU is free and it functions!

The ISDN bus is not disturbed, only because it is occupied with a discussion already outside of the box.

In addition, it folds with several telephones at the box. I also times with 7170 alone telephones similar with the Gigaset + tested.

And also degrees after plan with nem telephone at Fon2 and 2mal Gigaset of the speed haven. That folds also there.

Test nevertheless also times so.
Perhaps the box does not think with self calls with bypass so well also.
Quotation:
Quotation of mega The ISDN bus is not disturbed, only because it is occupied with a discussion already outside of the box.
With a discussion that is clear! I mean with 2 discussions!
But I really do not know. Was only 'ne assumption.

Quotation:
Test nevertheless also times so.
Already participate.

Quotation:
Perhaps the box does not think with self calls with bypass so well also.
That does not have influence in this case!
With self calls I tested in former times already extensively!


Supplement:
Ok one, again which in addition learned.
The FBF makes actually dropbakes on VoIP, if the S0 is occupied!
Now would only interest me, since when she makes,
and why it no audio signal spends!

How already described above, it makes however not with Rufumleitungen!
And it continues to itself place to you asks why she does not make it with similarly…

Greeting,
Hendrik
Which firmware do you have drauf?
du's times without LCR tested?
Hello,
my firmware version is 29.04.21.
Without the LCR I did not try it out yet, because I do not know, like one that temporarly (and/or. at all) to deactivate can.


Greeting,
Hendrik
Quotation:
Quotation of henfri And it continues to itself place to you asks why she does not make it with similarly…
Those makes it also with similar.
I with the speed haven tested. And I do not imagine, the original Fritz! Box there differently holds back.
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