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I have times briefly ne ask for fax function!
I have only 1x available call number, if I register these as internal fax, recognize myself the box automatically whether it around a fax or discussion acts? or does the Fritz box go immediately to as if it would be a fax?
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The passive fax switch must be activated and one must with bells struggle marriages - all the same whether humans or machine (OFF). The box listens then also, recognizes the fax, takes over and to receipt the fax
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Times a question in addition. So far I white are the passive fax switches nevertheless considerable Schr…. or do I confound the something?
You write humans or machine. I get a fax skillfully and the telephone ring. Then it can pass which I to goes and a whistler hears, or?
The only vernfntige would be nevertheless an active fax switch. Speak: Call comes purely, Fritz box takes off immediately (costs called then also equivalent however who the cares) and routet with fax directly on the fax without that once the telephone rings. And/or. with a language call becomes immediately on telephone peeled and the fax never goes ran. All different one is nevertheless quatsch and leads again and again to errors (fax whistles at the telephone etc.)
What thinks it?
Thanks
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… nervt the caller only once, the stop not with nem fax, but with humans to talk would like and simply only gene FFS is, if only a fax wedges itself between them without someone at home is.
That is in my eyes exactly the same a muck!
There are nevertheless nowadays so beautiful numbers of VoIP offerers, whom one can use particularly for fax, and thus the genuine line for genuine calls from humans to humans keeps free.
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I there which wrongly understood? I thought so far that an active fax switch accepts each discussion, to which caller does extremely supple, beautiful in the ear gets (for which it pays), telephone rings further, the switch listens whether fax beep arrive-comes, if, grows silent the telephone and the fax received.
With the FRITZ! Box is it in such a way that humans or the STARTING FROM accept the telephone call, FB listens also, if fax beep arrives, takes over the internal fax the telephone call OFF and at the telephone or ist's, as if the caller would have presented.
Please corrects me, if I lie wrongly.
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Thus my observations and test underline which pcccc say - exactly the same runs with me with the box… those does not go simply ran it takes over only from OFF if it a FAX recognizes.
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Which free should be it with which I local area network a number get and I do not have to pay for these. Also nothing unique or annual. In addition it would run nevertheless then over VoiP and the associated fax problems is well-known. Please correct me if I err.
Ok one, can confirm please someone functionality as follows:
- FAX comes purely, OFF to, notices that can be done it a fax is and the fax receipt goes loosely.
- Fax comes purely, Humans GET to, it beeps to Fritz box in the ear, [talk] takes over automatically the already angenommende discussion [/red] and receives the fax???????
- Call comes purely, OFF does not go to, Fritz notices that it a fax is calling and can to it on OFF speak
- Call comes purely, Humans goes to, Fritz notices it is a discussion and one converses normally.
Scenario 2 would be Hauptproblem actually here. Does that function really in such a way? If, the fax switch would really like that be correct. The only disadvantage would be the unique beeps which one stop has at the ear. But if those to Fritz this beep equal as fax recognizes and afterwards continues were everything marvelously. My experience with the fax switches is that exactly with scenario nothing more must to present and wait 2 happened, one to the fax again clean-come.
Thank you for your information and kind regards
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That can be done so unfortunately go with me (VoIP) to non has however belonged that it with similar to (HAIR DRYER) is. I manage there in such a way which I in the directory a number deposited similarly this here **600 and if I notice that it a FAX am reroute I it on the STARTING FROM - that can hold it correctly apart then and receives then fax or humans….
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Were actually benatwortet already beautifully all question. Two are only pending:
Of me on the Ausage of Novize: Which free should be it with which I local area network a number get and I do not have to pay for these. Also nothing unique or annual. In addition it would run nevertheless then over VoiP and the associated fax problems is well-known. Please correct me if I err.
And whether scenario 2 functions in such a way with one similar to connection. According to AleksCee it does not function with VoiP.
Thank you to all
1. Fax problems with VoIP are not generally given (more).
2. there are free VoIP numbers to is sufficient. Here I call only times sipgate - this however discuss please not here/continue to deepen, because that is not topic the Fritz, but one of
VoIP generally. Which offerers are as far “fax suited”, clarify please also in other place.
(BTW: origin post office was not to be read from free number the anything in
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3. It is to be always weighed, how often and aimed one receives faxes. If this is often the case, then it can be in my eyes calmly also a liable to pay the costs number, if then fax stability also top is. You receive on the other hand however only 1..2 faxes/year (and these if necessary. still only after announcement), then nevertheless a passive fax switch for the Fritz box owner is quite reasonable, because it will so often not hear the fax beep when receiving a telephone call. Is always more acceptable, than an active fax switch, which before-sings only once its fax melody to each caller. And also this lets a telephone ring parallel, so that it is also here nothing with absolute peace with the fax receipt.
I must after-hook here again:
The function mode is clear in the rough. I have only 2 questions:
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Fax comes purely -> Telephone is taken off -> one hears the fax beep… when does the box hand the discussion over to the fax? Immediately or only, after one presented? If immediately, does one hear somehow in the telephone?
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AVM writes on the homepage to the topic:
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Fax equipment furnish
The fax equipment may not receive detailed calls automatically, since the fax switch becomes otherwise not active and the fax equipment receives fax and language calls.
- Deactivating it in the fax equipment therefore automatic call acceptance.
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I thought, which hair dryer connection, on which the fax equipment hangs, only switched during fax recognition “actively” = called. But write like those, also the connection with each detailed call on the MSN one calls. Wiederrum the fax switch would make senseless…
Are easily confused and ask for assistance…
P.S. Not over mine are connection out of the signature and cannot test it due to the ISDN connection also.
No fax switch in the conventional sense has the Fritz boxes. This function co-operates only with the internal fax function of the box. With external fax equipment attached to the Fritz box that cannot be done. Otherwise the function differs not in principle from the one normal switch. Becomes an appropriate signal
after a connection establishment by a telephone or a STARTING FROM (also the off function of the Fritz box) recognized, the internal fax function takes over. Around the fact it is necessary that
each detailed call also one accepts. It is internal at the telephone or from the box. One can use separate fax equipment at one of the hair dryer connections at an analog line only for dispatching the faxes. Receiving must the Fritz box.
The alternative is direct the connection of the fax equipment before the Fritz box at the fragment. But that is a separate topic. The search function of the forum is your friend.
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... Becomes an appropriate signal after a connection establishment by a telephone or a STARTING FROM (also the off function of the Fritz box) recognized, the internal fax function takes over. Around the fact it is necessary that each detailed call also one accepts. It is internal at the telephone or from the box…
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Thus so seems correct to function however not. With my 7170 functions only, if the STARTING FROM rangeht. As soon as one removes the telephone, one hears in each case the fax clay/tone of the calling fax equipment, without that the box any institutes makes, the FAX to take over. It must then always wait that the calling fax equipment calls again and leaves then the STARTING FROM struggle marriages.
Then it functions with you differently than it is intended. The cause can have to be searched also in your attitudes.
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FAQ to the fax enterprise with AVM:
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The automatic fax recognition becomes only active, as soon as a call at a telephone or of an answering set is against taken. If those FRITZ! Box of faxes automatically received is, arranges you for the fax calls an answering set in the FRITZ! Boxes. Alternatively you can activate also an answering set, that to the FRITZ! Box is attached.
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Only you can examine the attitudes. Did you program internal Rufumleitungen? If no lack of attitude are evident, probably only the “sledgehammer method” helps work RESETs to have and input of all attitudes by hand around a defined starting situation.
The LINE sharing for different services (hair dryer/fax) is stop always connected with any compromises. Therefore separate fax number is always the better idea. That is unfortunately not possible however at an analog line. And faxes over VoIP is also somehow not correctly reliable. With the one it does not function reliably, with others again not or.
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Thus bypasses have I none. But the box hangs also only as client in the net, which should however actually have no effects. The box is connected also only by VoIP, no fixed net. The strange is stop that the whole functions, if the STARTING FROM rangeht. There the faxes arrive problem-free. Only if I go to the telephone, I hear then the fax clay/tone, without the box takes over. Naja, if I have times time, probier' I times the sledgehammer method out, so many faxes get I nu also not that hurries in such a way…
Can one manually reroute the “discussion with the fax equipment” actually then at the telephone on the internal fax?
If you have a complete connection with two PVCs, then there could be therefore difficulties…
NO, is a Telekom ISDN connection, C&S comfort. VoIP goes over sipgate.
VOIP numbers on both boxes registers or only on second….
Those I had only on second, first am normal t-com-routing. Nu I however times the sledgehammer method tried out, and in addition equivalent times the Fritz as if mainrout assigned and me a fax send to let. And which I am to say: ' s goes also OFF, if I do not remove. Also not, if I it on the regular fixed net number send let. Amusingly the whole…
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And which I am to say: ' s goes also OFF, if I do not remove. Also not, if I it on the regular fixed net number send let. Amusingly the whole…
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Where does the actual problem lie now? I have one
separate VoIP number for the internal fax furnished on the master box, runs perfectly….
