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Heise on-line 26.05.2009 08:49
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The long search without result for a buyer for the DSL business has an end for the Telekommunikationsdienstleister Freenet.de now: The Internet getting thing United Internet, with 1&1 already in the business as Reseller of DSL connections actively, takes over the range of the freenet AG.

As follows from a report on the today's Tuesday morning, United Internet pays 123 million euro for the freenet broadband GmbH. The purchase price builds itself on 70 million euro in cash as well as 4.6 million shares up of United Internet. In addition an agreement over “prferierte co-operation in the selling was closed by DSL products”, as United explained Internet.

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Perhaps well a further FritzBox Branding is then omitted in the future

And the service sinks still more deeply into the cellar.

In the long run constant thinning of the Kunkurrenz out cannot be good reliably…

Badly for freenet customers - however still more badly perhaps for the offerers and their customers, who were allowed to use the freenet Backbone. That falls certainly shortly flat

There actually also is Strato of concerned?

- Directly or indirectly all are concerned, which have freenet in the background
MeOme
Strato
Old Lycos and Tiscali customers
Fireline?

etc.

Actually I, the more offerer on the market, thought the better for the customers.
But if one sees, who with whom fuses, remains at the end probably only T-Com, United worldwide Internet and any cable salad offerer.

@Ecki, do not forget, Telefonica remains also remaining…

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But if one sees, who with whom fuses, remains at the end probably only T-Com, United worldwide Internet and any cable salad offerer.

... if Vodafone does not swallow the cable salad offerers before.
And if then only are few remaining, agree to the joint money making.

Thus, dear freenet customers, still fast Samsung rout order:
http://www.freenet.de/freenet/dsl/ha...hop/index.html

but a dream will remain probably the 1und1 something else offers times sometime as from the house AVM, me only times intressieren whether all Samsung owners now in vain a Fritz box gotten.

I see another advantage perhaps also in the fact that the AGBs is taken now perhaps times more exactly by 1und1 under the magnifying glass.

Peter

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[….] Telefonica remains also remaining…

and the “remaining” and “dann_fusionsgeschdigte” former competition to Special price .

2 billion euro for both enterprises = good deals

Well probably soon all 1+1-Anschlsse is then changed over to the freenet Backbone. Can change Meinereiner (at present switched over freenet) to Telefonica if the prices sink there because of sinking demand.

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Thus, dear freenet customers, still fast Samsung rout order:
http://www.freenet.de/freenet/dsl/ha...hop/index.html

Yes, makes a good impression. Also the fact that the GPL sources emerge directly in the description of offer with Samsung, is praise worth. Even if OT: Does someone know, with which those discuss the SIP stuff? There does Asterisk run?

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but a dream will remain probably the 1und1 something else offers times sometime as from the house AVM, me only times intressieren whether all Samsung owners now in vain a Fritz box gotten.

Or times an attractive offer completely without hardware. From the saved money one can buy then that, which one wants to have.

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Yes, makes a good impression.

Are LAN theconnections times finite Gigabit? And without WLAN?

As long as my DSL is not Gigabit, I can in rout without it to do. However I already agree in the place. Here the manufacturers should pull tight times slowly. Each again bought PC has meanwhile Gigabit LAN on board. Harm, if by the SWITCH in rout one obstructs.

But WLAN avoid I personally like the devil the Weihwasser. Rather a purchase argument would be if routs for me none WLAN has.

However only means desire for a DSL tariff encourages completely without hardware. I became gladly those few EUR, which I monthly for the subsidized hardware abstottere, into more meaningful invenstieren.

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Naja, also again some prop. guessing acres of software portions without source code:
http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/wiki/Samsung_SMT-G3210

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In the long run constant thinning of the Kunkurrenz out cannot be good reliably…

Yes, how?

Only it cannot be cheap all enough and if then (for lack of margin) the inevitable market consolidation occurs, it is also again not quite.

It was nevertheless probably clear that with the merciless price fight only some few will survive.

I see unfortunately similar…
WHAT? 2€ more in the month? There change I nevertheless rather…
Afterwards then the Genrgele goes of because of bad support, missing Zusatzleistungen etc. loosely.
So completely the customer is here unfortunately not innocent.

Quality has evenly its price and those is more important to me. To be silent from the support completely.

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Naja, also again some prop. guessing acres of software portions without source code:
http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/wiki/Samsung_SMT-G3210

Is correct. Thanks for the left. Because of the listing “drv_isdn” in the SOURCE I had hope that one comes with Asterisk on haven. Is not however probably nevertheless in it. Unter'm line thus not better like the Fritz! Box.

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Only it cannot be cheap all enough and if then (for lack of margin) the inevitable market consolidation occurs, it is also again not quite.

If the number of offerers is sufficiently thinned out, then the prices will probably again rise.

I can say only about freenet the following:

from 5 people only 2 did not have any problems with DSL and Telefonie.
The latter times where I my friends helped, was approx. 2 hours telephone call with technical service of freenet.
Thus as qualitative I cannot designate it.

Hopefully 1und1 makes it better

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If the number of offerers is sufficiently thinned out,

Thus, there are still Alice, cable Germany, Arcor, T-Com and several different….

The Alice can paint already times. That Sales is already through.

There are still Mnet, Versatel

And still another few more.

However nothing changes in the fact that it will less and less give sooner or later.
Times it looks whether Vodafone not until end of 2010 cables Germany bought.
That was already times in the discussion.

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However nothing changes in the fact that it will less and less give sooner or later.

Indeed, the consolidation progresses and for the competition (customer) will be not good.