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Moin,

Sat1 brought a straight report over VoIP to Planetopia in its magazine. For further information became on the web page http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php/www.planetopia.de referred.

In the part, which I had seen, only very few offerers (1&1, freenet and Sipgate) were regarded. In addition the principle of SIP was explained and little future music was played. An editor of net world said about the FBF 7050 in the 1&1-Branding “gives it if one requests a DSL connection.” Naja, not completely correctly. There are enough DSL offerers, who still do not rausrcken free of charge FBF 7050 and in addition.

Oh, Sat1 - there was nevertheless already recommended, the installation of a FBF not to make…

I hab's also only mentions, so that the list is not resumed here -, because I consider the report qualitatively high-quality.

There was a detailed report on n-tv to the topic VoIP on Thursday also and that this would be the new megatrend nevertheless on the CeBIT, because one can telephone thereby free of charge. A substitute symbol person of AVM was allowed to smile and point to the fact that one simply only one telephone must to so a small box anstpseln, in order to telephone… free of charge… world world

Sigh… reminds me nevertheless of the focus article over VoIP recently… and which is written also otherwise still in such a way and said in the media to VoiP.

--gandalf.

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Quotation of supasonic Oh, Sat1 - there was nevertheless already recommended, the installation of a FBF not to make…

Nunja, one must say to the fact that such reports are still under computer picture level and primarily also people is to address, which do not have notion of technology. --> The cables I must clean-put after for the color on and switch, more can I not, there custom I otherwise a technician.

I know even such a person, who an update for Fritz a box could be sent by E-Mail, although it does not have Internet entrance, then it was surprised, why it cannot install that, as much in addition.

Then explain to me times, how “this added itself” an email account, if he does not have an Internet entrance. And as it then this ominse email to fetch could without Internet entrance. And which it makes with a Fritz box without (DSL) - Internet entrance…
Ne is clearly, as many in addition…

Thus times the Ehrlichs
which expects it from such reports, and sorry particularly from SAT1.
It is nevertheless always a special high point, if Mr. M. with smart-important face expression before the camera steps and announces, how Gefhlich is Internet or Ebay. That arrives!!! nor particularly with the correct power Usern neither the PC have to know which a Provider is.
Is already mad, which one talks with so many stupid much money earn can. (unfortunate would have also gladly so a job).
The H in addition, must say. Backes of the WRD computer club good Firgur did not make about VoIP… with it one can telephone over the Intert… otherwise the man is nevertheless good.
But maintenance value has it already

Well, that is similar to any physician series, with which itself from time to time nevertheless everyone cannot do no more with only halfway medical training before laughter wars… or the court series, these wonderful processes with all surprise variants and clarifying vorgaukeln… like that it is even… but we hope times perhaps that by the broad information in the media about the existence of VoIP at least many people think and in this forum land with the time over this option, in order to inform completely concretely. The number of new participants is promising here and shows the fact that this approach place is important and is used.

Finally that is an effect as with all new technologies. When that became available Internet in Germany for the broad mass, times the advertisement to her had been supposed to see

... in particular, as E-Mail was explained and that it is free

But I had finally gotten enamel, which sent her in the municipal library even from my 86-jhrigen granny already

Everything a question of the time…

--gandalf.

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Quotation of supasonic Oh, Sat1 - there was nevertheless already recommended, the installation of a FBF not to make…

Obviously. Experts like the Sat.1-Hausexperte Peter Huth must also which do have.

Metz

Moin,

I my Mr. H. has also recommended which one no on-line Banking use should it there is much too uncertain and one needs only 3 computer around an existing on-line one connection to crack. Which one must aufsphren this however only, etc. analyze. he mentioned no Wrtchen of. Fatzit was only: “Use it better Telefonbanking or the advisor at the switch!”

Greeting Bartsi

Then this type never which of HBCI heard. Because a Fishing is impossible there. The only disadvantage, which I see there, one must invest money frn Cardreader. But this investment is worthwhile itself. I make Onlinebanking only via HBCI.

That still no brown edge to the Schnute have, of many shit labern, surprises me.

Bye Michael

I think times that one those few euro for the Cardreader, which should already be own security value.
But it also safe goes, is not not in the interest of ratingses.
Or these experts have really only a “smattering of knowledge”….
Briefly

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Quotation of Tuxi The only disadvantage, which I see there, one must invest money frn Cardreader.

With some banks (SEB for example) one gets the Card reader in vain! At least it was still last year like that, when my dad purchased that.

Greeting,

cement

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If already Cardreader, then however asks class 3 with display and keyboard. That brings highest security.
Unfortunately there is not however everywhere the possibility, correct To use HBCI. The postal bank z. B. that cannot.

The postal bank wants the non for HBCI must be bought also on bank side hard and software. And those is more expensively than for the PIN/TAN procedure needed.

Starting from Posting #10 that should actually become its own Thread, which has to do also only loosely something with VoIP

But to the topic: not at all a high security can be reached only with Cardreader, but also with certificates. SmartCards by pins with four digits protected are not really safer than certificates with a clearly longer password. This way however today in the final customer business still practically not used… B2B is however already in many portals and applications common.

--gandalf.

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Quotation of V70 I think times that one those few euro for the Cardreader, which should already be own security value.

Tja, if the own bank supports Banking by smart card. My old house bank (KSK Esslingen) introduced HBCI Chipkartenbanking only last year.

Metz

Since we get here always far off the topic of the forum and above all the Threads, I close times.