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Hello,

I changed over my connection now also kommplett to 1und1.
Before I had a beautiful fast 16000er T-Home line.
Now, after the conversion I am connected by a totally lame Arcor Backbone with the Internet. DL between 1000 and 4000 however no more 16000er.
I am now totally disappointed by 1und1, which rent this Arcor scrap iron.
The end becomes its, which I will leave at expiration of the contract running time 1und1. (After 11 years)
Why 1und1 offers complete connections to 16000, if they cannot hold the promises.
Are stink sour…
HomerSimpson

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Need more input (the exact DSL information of the Fritz box!)

Are now still as many on work, but:

In the Fritz box 16000 Download and 1000er Upload are located. (Interconnect capacitance)

In the log list is located with a failed telephone call arcorVOIP.
If I make a speed test, stands as Provider ARCOR.
With all acquaintance the Arcor has comes complaints over bad Downloadraten and
Discussion aborts with telephone calls. (here in Frankfurt or)
Property therefore from the outset this offerer avoided.
And nevertheless it got me now.
Cu.HomerSimpson

respect with a valley connection, which runs from 1und1 on arcor that you do not have a fragment between and the newest firmware.

possibly times the original cables use.

greeting

Fragment is direct raus, connection at the telephone box.
Times a few pictures made:

Did you test also with a genuine Download times, which data rate you reaches (the speed tests are Murks)?

Lad' nevertheless to the test times one large file from the T-Online server down (that is sufficiently fast) and indicate us times, on how much KB/s You approximately come there, if itself the values have after a few seconds “eingepegelt”.

Exactly, take the T-Online side, if it must be a speed test.

Here my current values of degrees evenly.

Speed test is clear murks, but one can derive tendencies nevertheless.

Before that 12,02 was always the DL rate with my IPOD over 10000.
now the DL occasional is smaller than the Upload.
There enormous fluctuations are on the day.
I want to only say thereby, who I am frightened, about selling off my connection
of 1und1 at Arcor.
Exactly such bad unkonstante values have 3 acquaintance of me, which are also with Arcor.

Thus, momentarily it lasted 6:34 min to down-load the file.

Cu.HomerSimpson

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and indicate us times, on how much KB/s You approximately come there, if itself the values have after a few seconds “eingepegelt”.

was formulated so incomprehensible?

There it stands:

Here again the announcement of the Providers:

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totally lame Arcor Backbone

I am on the contrary not negatively surprised by the speed with Arcor.
(with me the speed is limited however by the tariff. upload is doubled against it against the tariff gg. before at Telekom)

the only unresolved disadvantage:
the new server of 1u1 is not usable with the IPs of Arcor and the customer service reacted however the error so far to remove did not want.

@HomerSimpson
Which Ping do you have, if you enter ping heise.de? I see that you have the latency path on NEARLY in transmitter direction. With me that is not the case. Have ebendso 1und1 complete however over QSC one geroutet. Can you possibly still another screen SHOT of the DSL overview post?

In Empfangsrichtung the signal signal-to-noise ratio is somewhat small, that could be somewhat problematic. Poste asks times the spectrum and those nevertheless perhaps the other DSL sides.

TC, the speed is not berauschend really. Rather connection corresponds to a DSL 2500er.
You can times with 2. PC by LAN test?

if necessary. times also Tuneup 2008 (30 days test version) the Internet connection optimize.

Here is the information:

Momentarily the speed is nearly optimal, breaks however in the evening.

Many greetings
HomerSimpson

I see, you have the laboratory firmware drauf. Times one interest me. Place times please under DSL attitudes with the latency path of automatic on nearly and click on take over. Afterwards Mach again ping a too heise.de and poste times screen SHOT.

Edit: You have which tariff?

Ping is exactly the same as before…

My tariff: 1&1 double FLAT 16000

Cu.HomerSimpson

I have also the DoppelFLAT 16000 and to a Centillium DSLAM from QSC one switched - get only DSL 3000 with 40's an absorption purely DSL mode ADSL2+ and has no latency path nearly in transmitter direction. I believe, I telephone again with 1und1. You hang on a Broadcom DSLAM von Arcor

Your line is not optimal somehow, you times your lines in the house regarded whether you can improve something there (the left to the tips is in my signature). In any case one I became with the laboratory version times the hooks during “optimization for long lines” away-make, because your line is very short. And if necessary. try once it with the other hook when short lines. It would have to bring somehow the signal signal-to-noise ratio (tolerance) on over 9..10dB (in transmission direction). Perhaps the TAE box is age-old or it lies still any lines parallel to the original box.

Thank you for your remarks, but to completely follow I cannot you. 9..10dB, this value I have signal signal-to-noise ratio (tolerance) nevertheless. How do optimal values look?
My Telefonkabel is appropriate 2.5 years, telephone box is just as old, for Fritz box hangs on original cables without extensions. (Single family house)

With the attitudes of the FB changes nothing changes. This attitude has tried and thinks somewhat better is it.

Signal/signal-to-noise ratio (SNR Margin)
Change Downstream SNR around (railways) -3

I mean, since there were here 2.5 years long tidy DSL values for a 16000er line over the T_Com, lie it not on mean lines and attitudes, but at Arcor. I made so far only bad experiences with the company. That is now again confirmed.

Cu HomerSimpson

I see the SNR in the pictures for the Empfangsrichtung with 8..9 railways, thus under the modem of the Fritz box does not like 10 railways and that. The SNR should over 10-11db lie. If necessary. you know with that laboratory some more with the value for power-CUT-bake experiment, influence when short lines strong drauf, if the SNR is grenzwertig.
Do you have a ISDN or a NGN connection? With the ISDN you can try to wedge the arriving voice grade channel directly to the starter box bring perhaps also 1..2 railways improvement.

And the line, over which the whole goes, are still the Telekom, also Arcor from the switching center to you only rented. Since the line loss is so similar with you, as with me, the conduit length must be very small and it can actually be only because of any installations in the house or the line, at Arcor becomes it with approx. 90%-iger security do not lie. It is enough sometimes already, if still neighbour DSL got or in the house electrical equipment spinnt. I am since 2003 with Arcor and never problems had, only once, there I from the clean-coming line a vein off tore, there had I the problem that ISDN did not go, but DSL over the one connected vein still brought a wobbly Verbingung. Before I had found the problem, have I unite time used (a cause had been moving a cabinet).

The fact that it does not stand with the support so well, one knows, but since does not take itself all offerers much. I today still wait for an answer (those would have had to be already previous week there by Mail or letter) for my question, why for the peeled VoIP number neither the number suppression, still another call forwarding are adjustable.

Hello,

in the Fritz box already an attitude “optimized”.

Signal/signal-to-noise ratio (SNR Margin)
Change Downstream SNR around (railways) -3

Starter box does not give it with 1u1.

The Fritz box has 7270 directly with the appropriate cable to the TAE box
put. Fragment is raus.

I do not understand, which gives it starting from the circuit date to Arcor (of 12.02.2009) these problems.
Before with the T-Com Backbone was all IO.

The Backbone does not have to do however with the DSL connecting problems anything. And with me there are no problems, the Downloads is very fast there, it can only be, because you have a 1&1-Anschluss and occasionally over a Arcor Einwahl it goes that there are problems there, which must repair however 1&1.

Is correct, you have a 1&1-Anschluss, without fixed net. Thus the direct connection at the box should not make problems.

Here again the current values are after the change:

Assume times, if there are slow Arcor connections in the environment repeatedly (too), have there momentarily the bottleneck in the supply of the central distributor.

Our connection became here ends to last yearly in the case of the conversion to the complete tariff of T-Com (allegedly max. DSL-3000 possible) to Arcor moved, and since then negotiates the Fritz box stable 11 MBit/s down and 1 MBit/s UP, with 36dB down and 20dB Upstreamdmpfung. This capacity can with Downloads etc. to be also fully exhausted.

Think, in your case apply, which the reason for the favourable prices is with the DSL, i.e. that nobody a guaranteed data rate at the connection has. With ISDN one was safe, if the connection stood to be able to send 64,000 Bit/s over a dedicated line. With the DSL all customers of a distributor at a central point and over a common line are bundled do not further-obtain for their capacity not the sum of the transmission rates of all customers at the distributor to be must.

One hopes simply that not all customers at the same time on-line go/Downloads to start to etc.

It may be that Arcor solves the problem sometime, as this central distributor a faster line kriegt to the Backbone, does not have however.

The signal signal-to-noise ratio in transmission direction must up, at least on 10dB or somewhat more and not down.

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The signal signal-to-noise ratio in transmission direction must up, at least on 10dB or somewhat more and not down.

As long as the (carriage return character) error rate remains two digit on average per hour, became I say is enough the SNR Margin.

Here never more than 8 railways had, to rush hours rather 6 railways since the complete circuit.
After bringing the last DSL laboratory firmware in and reduction around 3 railways even again 1-2 MBit/s in the Downstream could be won. The line runs stably with max. 5 railways SNR Margin, some hours on the day even only 3.

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The signal signal-to-noise ratio in transmission direction must up, at least on 10dB or somewhat more and not down.

If I nevertheless already tried, then it became still worse….(13815 kBit/s)
now 16534kBit/s with 4db