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What is “remote connection”??2010-09-07 | ||||||
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I am with 1&1 4DSL (DSL2000 switched). Up-to-date in the Tarifwecsel the 6000er Doppelflat is offered to me. However with the following text: “Your domicile still lies in a less developed DSL area. Gladly we can offer to you the desired tariff however already by remote connection to the 1&1 net - for only 5€ per month more. “ What is to mean that? I have with 4DSL “up to 16000” DL speed, up-to-date however only 2000er (which no more cannot be probably actual, I live on the country and even the Komiker became do not honour switch). How then does 1&1 for 5 want€ more 6000 wars? That means probably rather: up to 6000, or? And above all: what offers is “remote connection”? Probably mainly something queue oil around 5 Ocken more to take the money…. 
Remote connection are the Regio of tariffs and is called at the place only the T-Com is available and their lines. A range increase falls thereby flat if to date only 2000 were possible. For many it counts nevertheless to change itself, since with Regio the customer receives a credit note from€ 16,37. With you: 4DSL 29.99€ + telephone connection 16.37€ (similar) = 46,36€ Double Flat 6,000 Regio 34.99€ + telephone connection 16.37€ (similar) - credit note of 16,37€ = 34,99€ The double Flat 6,000 Regio as tariff changes and not double Flat 16,000 Regio is offered to you surely? Quotation:
In various Threads described so here… 
"Remote connection“nevertheless exactly is the keyword for a successful search here in the forum - why does not use you these, where you can designate the keyword nevertheless so precisely? 
@rosx1: It is the double Flat 6000. CH has (for historical reasons) up-to-date still another ISDN connection with the T-Komikern. If probably one changes on the complete connection and hangs (as with my badly removed " region) Telefontechnsch further on the Kabe of the Komiker, which happens then with my connection: further does the ISDN remain or durh the tariff change to similar is changed over? That I did not smoke ISD practice-hired, but in the case of conversion to similarly I would have nevertheless again at least at the first shot line rumfummeln…. Many greetings to everything of eye star, which sometimes suffers a information Overkill by the simple use of the Suchfuntion of the quantity of the zurckgelieferten results…. 
In the telephone connection 1&1 does not change for anything to do there it thereby to nothing has with Regio. It remains existing thus the ISDN. A Downgrade on similar costs with T-Com 59,95€. Your connection does not change without your express order at the Telekom… D. h. in addition, that you must carry the difference for the ISDN connection… Wow, thanks for your answers! I wanted to edit straight once again my last Posting…. Occurred to me straight still what: As long as the T-Com connection remains, is all OK ONE, well like that. If 1&1 changes over actually sometime however, thus it a double connection becomes “more genuine”, then the beautiful feature of the Fritz box is, i.e. CallThru more also not usable? Likewise - think I cannot I then Haralds LCR any longer use, or? Thank you again! 
But both continues, the FB can nevertheless several discussions at the same time. and the LCR is to be able to be adjusted also to pure VoIP search, there gives it however no CbC separates only Voranameldung Am also to superior whether I completely to 1und1 go. How functions with the ISDN connection? At whom would I have to pay the difference between Analaog and ISDN and do count myself berhaubt still? For the moment I pay for DSL 2000 19.99 euro and for the ISDN connection to approx. 25 euro. That makes together 54.99 euro. What costs me everything with 1und1? Does the same constellation have as I and is at superior which it making should? Greeting long lane Is difficult sooo to count? 1&1
Sum approximately 44 euro After complete conversion it becomes somewhat simpler…
@ long lane One should clarify Erstmal which tariff for you is offered. If you are still no customer with 1&1, then go on their Website and select themselves a tariff. In the call number check you said which tariff possible is (double Flat and/or double Flat with remote connection). Are worth does both. Whereby with your calculation which is not correct. Either one point forget (e.g. Flat) or wrongly counted, because with you comes 44.99€ raus to your list. Hello, are 1und1 customer has the DSL Flat 2000. Since I on the country live can I also not more like 1700 kbit/s get. DSL connection is at the Telekom. By 1und1 a Doppelflat 6000 with remote connection is offered to me. One talks however in each case about an analog line, which costs happened with my ISDN connection in the month of the approx. 25 euro? Long lane Quotation:
in #7 stands: Your connection does not change without your express order at the Telekom… D. h. in addition, that you must carry the difference for the ISDN connection… And I in detail described the costs in addition in #11. What do you need still??? Hello, my momentary costs arrange themselves in such a way! 1und1 connection costs 19,99 Telekom basic charges of CallPlus/Isdn cost 25.48 including 19% value added tax makes together an amount of 45,47 euro which I each month pay. If I to 1und1 go now pay I to 34.99 inclusive value added tax Then still the remainder is added for ISDN approx. 10 euro which I further to the Telekom pay must still, that would be completely approx. 45 euro. If my calculation is not correct is worthwhile oneself in my case of the changes to 1und1 or? Only to understand for you: You remain further Telekom customer! All the same whether similar or ISDN, you pays your monthly fees for the port (ISDN 25.48 € or similar to 16,37 €) further regularly and fully to the Telekom. At 1&1 you pay only the fees for the Doppelflat - the credit note for the Telekom connection, which you still make available as a customer. Itself the change for you would be worth nevertheless, because in your momentary contract (DSL Flat 2000) you have no Telefonflat in the fixed net with in it, which is with the Doppelflat thereby. In addition can with the Doppelflat 6000 the Handyflat (Simkarte for free discussions in dt. Fixed net) free of charge to it-get. Additionally it concerns only an intermediate step up to the final conversion, then there is completely 35 euro… Hello, only once thank you to all for the fast assistance! Since my contract runs out with 1und1 only to 15.05.2009 and I am not content for the moment with everything (Internet Telefonie, Fritz box etc.) become I change concerning tariff make. At the given time I again with everything to be occupied, it can or on this market still much will certainly change. Best thanks to all Greeting long lane Hello, I the tariff change now made. The package calls itself UC Surf&Phone completely R What is that called UC? R might probably mean Regio, or? UC = inventory customer R = Refunding To details see tariff overview. Hello together, seit ihr euch sicher das ihr den Telekom-Anschlu behaltet. With me ' s gives the new tariff also only with 5€ to remote connection and nevertheless stands the following footnote there: * 1&1 double FLAT 6,000 in the first 3 months for 0, - €/Monat, thereafter 34.99 €/Monat. No Telekom telephone connection necessarily. Telephone FLAT (for private customers): 0 ct/Min. in dt. Fixed net. Handy FLAT (Vodafone D2 net): Free of charge of the mobile phone in dt. Telephone to fixed net and to all 1&1 portable radio customers. Calls in dt. Portable radio nets 19.9 ct/Min. Activation Handy map uniquely 9,60 €. Hardware dispatch 9,60 €. Minimum contract running time 24 months. Offer applies during registration to 1&1 Surf & Phone up to 30.06. I find also no reference to a refunding of the similar fixed net fee. Greeting Andreas Quotation:
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Hello, today in the control center my tariff change is confirmed. It is a “1&1 double FLAT 6000 Regio R”. If I the details to my contract look at am surprised I some more: - normally 2 telephone numbers participate in the tariff. With my earlier 4DSL-Vertrag had I mean three ISDN numbers registered plus 2 IP numbers. These numbers are all still there! Likewise I assumed my contract running time will change. In the control center the original end is however still indicated (I activated the checkmark, which says when changing evenly that I would agree with the extension….) Or is did that err fair trading or which? Or do I have to assume 1u1 “correct” these things become? Nor which: - There I am kept the Telekom connection with this tariff, can I instead of over VoIP now always by fixed net raustelefonieren (1&1 Flat participate) (would relieve my donkey Upload ) also still there - the inclusive Domain coming from 4DSL is…. Starting from when after the new tariff one accounts for? Many greetings! The 1&1 Flat is only for Voip in the fixed net. Alex Mmmmh. Flat telephoning refers to DSL Telefonie… Hello, I had on-line one a new complete 6000 connection assigned to 30 euro month and this into a Regio was later converted. Still anything peeled however wants the Telekom is not for 60 euro a new connection to switch shortly and 1und1 still 5 euro Regio fee more to have. Is so normal? Hpman First question: Do I see that correct that, if I have momentarily T-ISDN and remote connection needs ISDN with 1&1, I so long keep must, until the complete connection is regionally available? Thus in the case of doubt the full two years or longer? That is a rather small city here. There is DSL 16,000 in my road, but otherwise… Second question: That is called I wars the analog basic charges refunded, which to 8 € difference to ISDN I must pay and with take into consideration however further. Correctly? Third question: Since I have further T-ISDN, until the area is developed, I have then however probably as comfort plaster at least the advantage, far call By call preselections to use to be able for mobile nets and foreign country. That is called the expensive 1&1-VoIP-Tarifen for these cases can I evade until further notice. And if one changes over then sometime, I must telephone over 1&1, save however then at least 5 € fees for the remote connection. Everything correctly? 1.) Yes 2.) Yes 3.) Yes 
Thanks for the clear answers. Now I have still another question: With Strato and/or. Freenet of wars I completely different answers. There the advisors (however no technician is) swear to stone on leg that the whole also with rain IO addition without T-Com-Festnetzanschluss and thus quasi only one rental for the last mile would run would result. Question: , Or doesn't know can it be not so exactly? I do not reach the technology there, because I in the waiting loop a Kundennr. to type would have. Edit: Background of the question is that I, if I mean fixed mains connection to keep had and only the costs of T-Com call plus standard were refunded would be worthwhile myself it, before with T-Com of ISDN after Downgrade to make similar (costs 60 euro, is worthwhile themselves after 8 months). If the connection would be void with Strato however completely, would be the out-thrown money. Thus since short one runs with 1&1 as follows: Rain IO addition is anywhere required, where the availability of 1&1 technology partners (Telefonica, QSC, Arcor) is alike to zero was already in-maintained (and in the 1&1 data base). There you have only the possibility over T-Com Bitstream a complete connection for wars. And there the costs of a Bitstreamzugang over the T-Com around some are higher, than a partner, also for the further time of the complete connection the 5 euro Regio addition are required. Probably at the beginning of of Octobers runs in such a way since the revision of the internal “rain IO addition list” with 1&1… I had the luck before this time complete to have assigned and need the 5 euro not to pay, although with me none the above mentioned. Partner is available. I go being able to keep thus times of it out still some years mine fixed mains connection, since I do not believe that with me the T-Com Bitstream switches with a 1000er availability .
Yes, understand. But which is with Strato and/or. Freenet differently? They say at least something else to me. Edit: Can it be that Strato/freenet gets and offers genuine bit current entrances without fixed net of T-Com contrary to 1&1? If, would be then still the question, why 1&1 offers something else there. The question should be here wrongly at the place and/or. the answer somewhere after-readably, are so nice and refers me to it. Thanks. Sorry, the variant of the Bitstreamanschlusses gives it in the meantime also with the 1&1. Then you get also a pure data connection switched without fixed net of the T-Com to use here to be able. Which variant is taken now by the Provider, is for each individual case different. The only warranty one additionally for the DSL connection of existing fixed mains connection you have connection with a “basic” -. You must pay the T-Com-fees here independently to the 1&1-Anschluss to the T-Com. Then however the DSL connection is somewhat more favorable. Under the line more expensively, but you have a) the possibility for Festnetz CbC b) Dropbake on disturbance of the DSL connection Well, 1&1 with fixed net costs 40 €, Strato bit stream 30 €, in each case inclusive Rain IO addition. That is already a clear difference. I assigned and hope times Strato to experience no bad surprise. So far I had stable 16.000er Connects with 1&1 via T-Com Resale, hopefully am that in the future also like that. And hopefully I can use also my hardware (7170 with Freetz) simply further. We will see. I had it this evening simply fullly to consider still further cost also time and thus money. Hello, I have also a ISDN connection at the Telekom and 4DSL with 1und1. So far detailed not VOIP calls come over mean ISDN Festnetzanschluss pure. That changes, if I change completely to 1und1 and all detailed discussions run thereafter over 1und1 and from there over my weak 1,5mbit-DSL-Leitung as VOIP discussion to my Fritz! Box? If and I were served also only over the remote connection, do the coming in not VOIP discussions run in then as before over ISDN Festnetz? Many greetings Tatti95, exactly these questions were answered very in detail nevertheless in the last 10 contributions. This reads please again in peace.
Naja, also with 2. times calm reading of the contributions it finds that the answer can be only interpreted. Since remote connection probably means the fact that nothing changes comes probably all not VOIP calls further as before over ISDN with me pure. - correctly? Is complete assumption called by 1und1 that all detailed calls are converted with 1und1 and then over the DSL connection to come in? I ask so penetrant, because I fear for this case that the quality of the discussions then also with detailed telephone calls than before become worse. Sorry, if the questions should be too blde, has to change something Bammel. Many greetings Quotation:
Do you want to die this risk? [quote=kriegaex; 1212264] Thanks for the clear answers. Now I have still another question: With Strato and/or. Freenet of wars I completely different answers. There the advisors (however no technician is) swear to stone on leg that the whole also with rain IO addition without T-Com-Festnetzanschluss and thus quasi only one rental for the last mile would run would result. Question: , Or doesn't know can it be not so exactly? I do not reach the technology there, because I in the waiting loop a Kundennr. to type would have. Hello, with freenet like that, - has completely, T-com - connection is by freenet is quit, my fixed net number has I carry forward to freenet-completely. And I pay 4.95 € R-option and I have no more connection with T-com. Hello, wanted to ask whether with a change for 1&1 with remote connection still the Telekom connection (16.37 euro) is necessary or goes it now by Bitstream? My neighbour has a freenet Bitstream connection and must no more 16.37 euro to the Telekom pay? My neighbour had no Telefonieprobleme with its 2000er connection with freenet so far! Is also sufficient with 1&1? (Unfortunately does not go with us any longer! With 1&1 one does not get that so fast probably baked. Since that time I am now already for 7 months in the Regio R and happened nothing. With freenet that is immediately assigned - as I understand -. hello! the offer wanted to use now from 1+1 to 31.12.08 16000. with me only the remote connection goes. however already months ago mine connection quit to 01.08.09 with tcom. kannich then starting from that 01.08.09 festnetz the no more does not use if I to 1+1 changes. Since I quit already before. or am I only DSL with tcom the well-informed? |
