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we are for a long time portable radio customers with CO2 and m.E. actually completely well contently. On that CO2 homepage I have today gelsen now the 16.000er DSL for 35 Euronen in the month am offered and the Fritz box 7270 to be used can. The discussions are additional among themselves free of charge. (Family and Office). That sounds very interesting for me. So far we are with 1und1 and have there also the 16,000 he completely connection with 6 call numbers and are actually content thereby well. Of CO2 as DSL offerer I heard, here in the forum also mainly technical problems was discussed not yet much. Me would only interest whether CO2 with 1und1 is comparable or whether I should not think about a change better…. (Never CHANGE A running system…) Thanks for your assistance!  Marybell Hello Prusseliese January CO2 DSL so far I telephone to property since at the beginning of over it my cable connection still until March run only there. Family & office option was to be taken for me the main point CO2 DSL. With Fritz! One knows box 7170 so with up to 5 Handies over Callthrough for 1 cent/minute in the German fixed net and starting from 9 cent/minute in the German portable radio net telephones. (unfortunately not at the same time) Too the free discussions do not forget home and between the 5 Handies (e.g. O2o or old Genion S of contracts) Also the publication of the Sip Telefonie entrance data makes possible the use for Fritz! Box. Surely there is a possibility to use also over Callthrough the CO2 Flat in the fixed net, unfortunately may I no further attempt make.  (my being pleased DIN)Greeting Resool http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=207031 To recommending CO2 is in any case. A large advantage is, which one can select the contract also without contract running time. If it nevertheless already so far were. For the moment I am at waiting. Since I ordered CO2 DSL over Bitstream Telekom and my call number wants to carry forward, I must control rooms and nothing as control rooms to that times am probably worked on. Thus I participate since the start time of O2DSL and I will no longer elsewhere change! But it belongs to also something luck. With me was/is CO2 the so far best offerers. Others had simply pitch with line o.a. - however then one gets away better from CO2 than with 1-1 or… Thank you for your answers. If I understood correctly now everything am CO2 thus to recommend if one A: No more like 4 call numbers do not portieren would like b: This of 1und1 do not portieren wants C: Postpaidvertrge with CO2 under the same customer number has Point A and b would then be for us k.o. Criterion. Because we 6 numbers with 1und1 which we to continue using wanted. Possibly there Sipgate is a solution. Times look. As it is with the homepage inkludierten with 1und1. Can those move also to CO2? We have there a Domain, which determines also our email addresses. (xxx@familiexxx.de) Thanks  Marybell Hello, no CO2 does not offer Webhosting and/or. Domainservice, therefore a removal is not possible there. Quotation:
“All out A ALL THIs” - I gave beginning up before 2 years. My trunk Telefonnr. (in detail) there are with Sipgate (5 pieces) and 3 versch. Sip account assigned. In addition the 4 CO2 call numbers come (going off). After bad experiences with 1&1 and Arcor I wanted to be independent of the line offerer. If CO2 would not be optimal for my needs, I could have changed the offerer without Portierungsprobleme. There are solutions for all things - does not find with all acceptance. CO2 permitted up to 10 call number, therefore are in the basic price contained of 4. I use however for years the sipgate solution VoIP sigh above described, functioned perfectly For me the question remains open which with 1&1 for outgoing Portierung per call number is required? (This would be relevant for my parents-in-law). In the point achievement I am all around content with CO2. No throttling, obliging, friendly. In-in-half years a loss was for 2 hours, in the comparison to the previous Strato/freenet this would be simply nothing. Possible Einschatungsverzgerungen at the beginning is appropriate to Telekom. Because if one changes different offerer from the complete connection on the one hand, the DSL line not switched but completely separated is attached and then to new offerer. from Teltarif: To the 1. February makes the taking along of call numbers for CO2 possible around numerous further Telefongesellschaften. So new customers, who had so far a connection with 1&1, freenet, cable bathe Wrtemberg, cable Germany, AugustaKom, KielNet, TeleBel, Tiscali, Tropolys, Unitymedia, Versatel or wilhelm.tel, can keep likewise their traditional fixed net numbers.
Does it give also to offerer where I our Domain for little money “parks” can and thus our email addresses kept can? Since I have unr a Genion Card S contract without Festnetzflat, is it to be called possible the Fritz box at home and to be led then across Callthrough the fixed net discussions? I would have mean CO2 changed contract gladly into a partner map to the contract of my man. That unfortunately cannot be done however, I would have to then portieren a new contract abschliessne and cannot my loved number not from a contract on other. I white, it goes over detours, the expenditure was however not worth it. Because at present I have nevertheless the Festnetzflat of 1und1 and second mobile phone… LG Marybell Hello Prusseliese if my Domain has with Strato, is concerning the price fair Web space and E-Mail accounts for 2,50/month To the larger packages there is also still software in addition Which tariff has your man (Festnetzflat) If the contract would run on your names, you could take the Genion S map in family & office option (CO2 mobile phone > House = free of charge) and over Callthrough call strange CO2 mobile phone free of charge. Greeting Resool My man has the Genion L, thus fixed net and CO2 Flat including. Calltrough functions thus? Then I can with my Genion S the Fritz call and then in the fixed net free of charge telephone? That would be beautiful, then I only a mobile phone need! Thanks Marybell HP: Oh, all contracts would naturally run under a customer number! The Handyvertrge is already together. Quotation:
Settled… is certain hardware to use as with vodafone with CO2 one did force? or can I fbanschliessen my and configure with username and password? does one receive for voip also entrance data? Jein, only O2Router (Zyxel OEM HW) and Fritz box 7270 are supported. Everything else is just as risky and un-supported as with Vodafone/Arcor. The 7170 and older boxes go all well, however on own danger. Hello contrary to Vodafone one gets the entrance data from CO2. According to CO2 is the Voip Telefonie bebunden to the IP address of the DSL of connection. (I do not have tested) Greeting Resool thank you already helps me if one entrance data gets is already which although I have entrance data gotten of vodafone after 10 times to call and to beg, those were partially wrongly those have I then with old rout of vodafone selected and fb to 7170 given, partially the whole kramm other day against, had only annoyance with that did not function and no fun made therefore I would not like any more into in such a way one do not fall to clean-run. Can one update the Fritz box 7270 of CO2 over AVm? the new updates of AVM are frequently interesting and whereupon would like I not to do without or is one dependent only on CO2 and its updates??? One can use completely normally the firmware of AVM. All the same whether laboratory or normal release. This must be only higher than the version 79, because of the data for the CO2 Branding. , speaks everything thanks for CO2 can one send and receive faxes with CO2? with vodafone did not go it at all, which needs I perhaps 1 time in the year however it was annoying the fact that vodafone thereby me as a customer won and behauptette later also faxes goes. Faxes function also, but there are probably problems with some HP fax devices, where one must switch the error correction off. Being located here somewhere in the forum… can I do my old fb 7170 as if IP-client by patch cables to CO2 7270 to attach and sip the data for the CO2 voip to the fb7071 to give, so which I can attach in the cellar of telephones? Quotation:
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So far I do not have problems with Fritz! Fax, Callthroug over 2 ' e line, Sipgate etc. Only the FRITZ goes! Box 7270 of CO2, those has a Branding and gives probably only so correctly starting from the 79 firmware. If one would start a previous again drauf flasht without the Branding to change, this continuously. o2dsl very good and fail safe (however in the meantime all DSL Provider might be), but O2-VoIP is absolutely nix for people the VoIP Mobil or with other devices behind NAT to use wants: http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showpos...5&postcount=50 But probably is that (for safety reasons?) not intended. thus if the VOIP is not suited absolutely then can one only to Telekom go if one reasonably to telephone liked? with vodafone I have a ISDN ordered, got I only DSL and voip total katastropfe, constantly had one to again select and extremely bad clay/tone quality. on the other hand as woprr Internet connection writes well. thus after that if one to telephone would like only t-com? Bldsinn - why are so many customers with VoIP over CO2 content? With the dissatisfied DSL is bad or it is hardware problems. Exactly the same problems as with Vodafone or Alice. Consider I O2voice still better and more flexibly than with Vodafone. However only a subjective impression is due to own experience. Consider please the emphasis of above statement: but O2-VoIP is absolutely nix for people the VoIP Mobil or with other devices behind NAT to use wants: Tcom might serve also only as synonym for conservative ISDN connections, hopes I. Those gives it also from Vodafone/Arcor and Versatel. There I would go rather. Can be quite meaningful, if one needs altbackene devices and paper fax. My summary after 3 years VoIP: for a private household perfectly sufficiently. With USV and Handy Backup altogether still better, safe and more favorably than a Tcom connection. Quotation:
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I would anyhow give preference to CO2 for the described reasons opposite 1&1. However it gives to become meanwhile still another second possibility, directly Telefonica customer, i.e. with a Alice connection. Telefonica took over recently Hansenet, D. h. also Hansenet /Alice customers are now directly customers of the network carrier and no more a retailer. In addition some Hansenet customers are particularly privileged, because if they live in the Hansenet Ausbaugebiet, they get conventional fixed net instead of NGN with VoIP Telefonie. Also these participants are directly customers with the network carrier. You have Westphalia” as residence “indicated, possibly live you even in the Hansenet Ausbaugebiet (for example Mnster belongs to). If, you can to no more to a genuine fixed mains connection look forward and do not have over DSL telephone. Like the “Family option” (free discussions between mobile phone and fixed net) gives it by the way also, however only as limited, again and again such a thing with Alice extended action (at present the action to 30.6.2010 runs). Grssle The micro giant Quotation:
I use VoIP already over 11 years, for the first time with 56K modem. At that time it was very critical. And today a discussion from the fixed net to VoIP over VoIP rerouted to the GSM and still in the acceptable quality. There I do not see a problem perhaps can it depend on the location??? 4 years was I with 1und1 with DSL and voip and went everything smoothly, then vodafone with unakzeptabelem came voip and theatres with entrance data we are in the external area and with a Download of 3456 Kbps thus DSL 3000. although with 1und1 all ok all thing was festnetz was of tcom, DSL and voip by 1und1, we used only voip and none was perfect festnetz weill it Quotation:
naja upload also modest 448 Kbps. but like that as Vf is with Qos stands. QoS attitudes: This attitude takes place via your offerer this easybox 802 of vodafond is correctly to falls in love Quotation:
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http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showpos...89&postcount=5 Must I times again test. who Bittorent o.a. Things drives like Xbox Spielereien etc. because of the Easybox as little joy in Vodafone DSL will have as with CO2 with Zyxel routing. That has to do then however few with the quality of the DSL or the VoIP, if rout scrap iron is and QoS among other things converts not correctly. Quotation:
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@ilvoip: QoS is important actually only with VoIP. During conventional connections the Telefonie is not disturbed by DSL Traffic. Since tut's then also cheap-rout And as already described one gets genuine fixed net also with Vodafone, if one the appropriate product ordered and if it is available. The latter should be at many locations the case, because Vodafone is after the Telekom the largest offerer of conventional fixed mains connections in Germany.Grssle The micro giant thus “comfort classic” was not only only as it so far was already ordered I no fragment and ntba got and after inquires said the lady to hotline needs I. thus weeks later I knew in this forum for my region probably give it only here no genuine isdn of vf. zuspt the contract was for 2 years and after a legal advice knew I which I at the cure TZE rem lever sits. also no problem if it me would not have forced only their hardware zubenutzen. this patronizing went zuweit Quotation:
That applies however only if you actually “comfort classic” ordered, not “comfort plus”. The latter offers also ISDN characteristics such as z. B. several call numbers and 2 voice channels, which become however on VoIP basis realized. It is important not to confound with the order the two products. Grssle The micro giant there the worm probably lies, thanks for the info. on which I must with CO2 respect if I really Isdn and still in addition voip would like to have. we are 4 a kpfige family with 2 dte rodents from the telephone do not get away thus 4 better 5 call number and at least 2 lines could we use with CO2 independence without contract pleases me on the last 4 euro in the month it does not depend on it, nevertheless wants to 4 persons to communicate and at Internet Quotation:
DSL connection without minimum contract running time was the principal reason to decide me for CO2 DSL. Above all, because I still at the German Telekom AG a VDSL request run has. However for 2 months dead and is not confirmed not times the order or the technical feasibility or evenly Unmachbarkeit places. So I am rather from the emergency to have no DSL connection more with CO2 landed. Up to now I am to be high-content with the job execution. Days after order (14.02.2010) I could see on-line planned connection date to 3 and had my Besttigungsmail with the telephone numbers and the date. In addition the connection date lies compared with other offerers in short 14 days after order. 4 days after order, thus today (18.02.2010) has I mean Fritz box 7270 and the contract received. Before it I had tried still 1&1, which said to me after 14 days the fact that I know neither VDSL nor DSL wars and me only UMTS would remain since no haven would be free and I needed to try also no other offerer, since other also no haven freely would have. From where those want to probably know that, well times sees whether that further so well folds. Little remainder doubt whether with the connection at the beginning of March which becomes has I still, above all because Telekom's will switch a technician the last mile from my dwelling into the main distributor center. DSL 16000 without contract running time, CO2 CAN DO. Was for many years with Arcor and had with a 6000er DSL to be content, there goes any longer me each time on demand one communicated. At the Telekom I would have gotten only a 3000er line. Either those do not want to be able to do or them simply not. Then the CO2 offer without Vetragslaufzeit, I came with the technology called, said the technician there should loosely to 10000-12000 go. And it was right, goes even still a little more. Had also still no problems with telephoning etc. up to now I know CO2 DSL only a recommending. With Arcor I paid Premium in the month€ 44 for a 6000er, with CO2 for DSL completely as independent 29.75€, the change already was alone therefore worthwhile myself. Quotation:
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Grssle The micro giant @ micro giant Which is useful to me your Vodafone comfort Classic, if those Mr. no steam on those Line bringing. Again 24 months on nen Provider bind? No thanks. I could determine so far still not one disadvantage from NGN to ISDN, except which I have at home only 1 modem at the connection. The language quality is Top. Greeting of the Gnarf |
