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I use a FB7170 at my CO2 DSL connection. I have 4 call number and the following thought of. 1. Call number --> my fixed net telephone 2. Call number --> RUL on my CO2 mobile phone (country widely fixednet-favorably reachable) 3. Call number --> RUL on CO2 mobile phone of my wife (country widely fixednet-favorably reachable) 4. Call number --> I use the Callthrough function i.e. I call free of charge on my FN and leave myself of my FB on FN or CO2 number further-connect (free of charge there FN and CO2 Flat) --> the 1.Rufnummer is transferred My question is whether the RUL is free on my mobile phone. If I make a RUL on-line on the CO2 side, this something costs. I hope it can help correctly - everything goes free of charge @coolboy_2000: can you explain with with Callthrough times? Would possibly be for me. also interesting. In particular interest me, does how you can call free of charge on your fixed net? EDIT: Property me evenly somewhat well read: I assume, you make over the FamilyFlat. How & where can one furnish these? Property with the CO2 portal for this nothing found. In my opinion the Family Flat is aut. also thereby, if one booked CO2 DSL and still another Handyvertrag with CO2 has. I call free of charge on the furnished Callthrough number at home. Then I enter a pin and then get I a free character and select the number, which I would like to call. (Fetsnetz or CO2 number) and already I have a Flat of my mobile phone 
[EDIT: Senseless full quotation removes. --gandalf.] Rear one, I have CO2 DSL i.V. with the period box 7270 - for 1.5 years… Runs without problems, Rufumleitung and Callthrough goes perfectly… On this side it gives a few Tipps, how one can store also the pin input in the mobile phone. Much fun. Oli Rear one I use Callthrough of the mobile phone over 7270 to portable radio goals CO2 has L and on stranger of nets 29 cent/min would pay over Voip then for approx. 10 cent/min folds Also the call forwarding is interesting Habs now also tries out - is free with me the Rufumleitung does not strange-prove! In the last calculation the Rufumleitung with the letter “U” marked and completely normally, as Rufumleitung emerged evenly, was computed. Property then with the configuration on the CO2 side checked and discovers that the Rufumleitungen, which I had registered in the Fritz box were transferred there to the configuration!! How happened? Are your Rufumleitungen located also in the CO2 configuration? With me not! How did you furnish it? Direct call forwarding? Or call Through etc. with time delay? At least if delays in it are, it cannot tighten CO2 in my opinion. Register automatically into the Festnetzsettings hold I for extremely improbably, not least for legal reasons. I have DSL since yesterday also CO2 and use the Fritz box 7270. Unfortunately I get the Rufumleitung also not, without which the Fritz box registers these again with the CO2 side in the fixed net configuration. There I the Family Flat have should the Rufumleitung on CO2 mobile phone, even if this runs over CO2, but also free of charge its or? Has actually already who a parallel call get? Does this CO2 actually support? I would have gladly over one determine to call number both the CO2 mobile phone and a DECT the mobile part, which hangs on the Fritz box, ring. But rings so far excluding mobile phone, since the Rufumleitung is probably already intercepted with CO2 and not at all up to the box through comes. No, one with CO2 directly furnished Rufumleitung costs in principle something, also with Family Flat (that was times free of charge, now in former times probably however no more). I furnished, fold parallel call successfully in my Fritz box on my CO2 mobile phone great. This parallel call however not for a number but for a branch furnished (thus that rings to mobile phone with calls on all the branch assigned numbers with). In addition, I have not the problem that the bypasses are registered in my FB automatically also with CO2. @ilvoip: Were not two simple Rufumleitungen, call Through, thus without time delay. Fact is that I had registered the two Rufumleitungen only in the box and that me, after I had gotten the calculation, in which the Rufumleitungen were computed was noticeable that these are registered with CO2 also. To reproduce I could not do that so far however also yet: with CO2, checks those deleted the Rufumleitungen in the Fritz box left and regularly whether they emerge on the CO2 side. That runs now for >1 week in such a way, with CO2 gives to ' s still no Rufumleitungen. Me will announce, if that should change. Which Fritz box do you have? I deleted, after I discovered the Rufumleitung yesterday with CO2, these directly on the CO2 side again and was again registered later short time her. In addition, if a Settings change can be the box to it induced the whole CO2 to convey, in the detail will test this evening again. Quotation:
 Furthermore it seems to be a problem at NEW CUSTOMERS. The old customers did not announce that so far. I again tested it straight. The Rufumleitung with the CO2 fixed net attitudes becomes seconds, after I deleted these again set, as long as the Rufumleitung is adjusted in the Fritz box. Does not seem to probably really go at the new customers any longer differently. With me that does not happen! Try it nevertheless times with time delay over call through or parallel call. TO ALL NEW CUSTOMERS WITH THOSE CALL BYPASS WHICH COSTS: Have you the CO2 DSL complete OR the CO2 DSL complete PLUS package? Because since the tariff amendment the Familiy is option and the CO2 Flat only starting from the plus package also thereby… Greetings (Sounds banal, would however be in the range of the possible one) I have still the old CO2 DSL complete (without pluses), with the Family option and had the problem with the Rufumleitung, which was independently registered. By the way, after I deleted the Rufumleitung on the CO2 side, is it there so far (approx. 2 weeks) not again emerged. With me the deletion of the forwarding on the CO2 side folded it now to the Xten attempt also and so far there again did not also emerge. (Tariff DSL completely Premium on-line one) Quotation:
Also with me in the last calculation no RUL costs  It lives the BWHZ! Rear one. Thus I unfortunately made the error, which FB7270 to reseten and a new firmware draufzuspielen. Had before a RUL, which was so far never computed (up to the Augustrechng.). Recently like said FB again installed with in/export function the old profile again again up and a further RUL tries. Both are now liable to pay the costs. If it writes with you like it functioned - writes nevertheless please times which attitudes you exactly have, otherwise I can not reproduce that =). Customer since 1 year (CO2 complete [inclusive. Fam.FlatRate]) Greeting P.S. Already tried within the FB to reroute - thus call of mobile phone X (not CO2) on FNNr.1 on FNNr.2 rerouted, then raus to mobile phone Y (in FamFlat). Funzt also not  !P.P.S.: Your ideas taken up: “retarded (long)” do not function at all - it is rerouted only immediately and parallel call, whereby in the CO2 portal nothing appears in the attitudes - look at to me up to the next calculation. Hello together, only once thank you to all from this forum, which made it for me possible to bring my Fritz box at a O2DSL connection to running. I worked on my Fritz box 7170 (firmware 29.04.76) xxx.export in such a way over the attitude file that I can telephone also with other CO2 participants (UFO). The moreover one I furnished 2 Rufumleitungen. One of it however not actively switched, since I wanted to have these only actively, if we are in the vacation. Now I had however suddenly the problem that all calls were passed on on the fixed net number directly to my mobile phone. In the FB was this RUL however as not actively (no hook to) characterized. This RUL functioned likewise, if the FB were switched off, therefore came me the suspicion that there must be a RUL directly with CO2. But I cannot see the fixed net attitudes with CO2 because of technical reasons on the part of CO2. Thus UFO rausgekramt and attached and the status of all RULs by telephone queried. And both RULs registered by me were adjusted actually, there (the 2. RUL have I also on actively posed in the FB). Both RULs immediately then by telephone deactivated. Now I ask myself however, how CO2 can know. Does the FB send any data at CO2? It cannot changes one its, because the inactive RUL out on my mobile phone (different customer number and name with CO2) ever did not try. But it folded nevertheless  . Accordingly the FB MUST send data at CO2 nevertheless  . What means it in addition?VG, MASK HP: Oh, still another tariff has DSL 4000 since in the middle of 2007. Day together, with me was like that: For RUL with “automatically” furnished, produce RUL in the office (liable to pay the costs) RUL with “immediately” eigerichtet, produces Fritzbox RUL (free) Greetings, bulko. Edit: Straight stated that with my current firmware none exists “automatically” more…
With me many RUL are adjusted, automatic by “however never” - I know not at all, except as outgoing No., which I do not use in addition. It would be to be transferred paradoxically RUL to the CO2 Web, since then with me the 10x/Tag could change. In addition still the faith is missing to me somehow. I did not select likewise anywhere the option “automatic”. Nevertheless the RUL must have arrived somehow at CO2, since I did not register her definitely with CO2. I do not have access to the fixed net attitudes. Thus does the question arise to me, how the RULs came there???
Hello, @masc, @VoIP-seufz, I have the problem at present also. It with CO2 deletion left, is however apparent still in it. The support said to me, which would be it the StandardRul's, which are always set by CO2 and which one could delete these with Keypads. What A Surprise did not function it nevertheless and I not yet times with MyO2 into the attitudes fr's to fixed net comes… But is there the last clay/tone yet does not verklungen… 
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@masc, therefore it e.g. goes not, but. around the fact that if a MSN is not attainable, a bypass on the next takes place, etc. Which puts there still everything behind, I cannot say to you and, it go only with the UFO, or about the WebIf MyO2… I do not understand the problem somehow. I have dozens of RUL and no computation for bypass on mobile phone or voicemails. I assume correctly…. with you happens only with detailed calls of your Family Handies, then by RUL to other numbers with own O2-Nr. again rausgehen? Happens also with call through? Happens also with parallel call? Thus my problem is that I registered 2 RULs into the FB and CO2 received. 1 of it goes at a Family Flat mobile phone (and with these RUL has a checkmark with actively made) 1 does not go to my mobile phone and is Family Flat mobile phone, there different customer number. And I did not have this RUL actively. Then however both RULs were registered with CO2 directly. And I do not know, why! The RULs, which is registered with CO2, is liable to pay the costs. @VoIP-seufz, that is the amusing, with the Familygeschichte and with my CallThrough runs everything correctly and free of charge, but with detailed calls from the fixed net, with which longer one angelutet, effected suddenly and uncontrolled a bypass. But now kommt's: not on one of my call numbers, but on a connection with us in the local area network, which has the same MSN, like the country code without the prominent two zeros and the first two numbers of the local preselection without the zero.  EDIT: and those are accounted for, although Flat… 
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Ups - which would mean that nevertheless the Fritz box is selected… A not used and not active RUL cannot come otherwise nevertheless at all into the CO2 portal. That becomes ever more mysteriser. @Doc456: I could accept that still rather as maladministration with CO2. If I think there of the call number transmission with Spanish preselection… 
@VoIP-seufz: Yes, I think evenly also and/or. the FB sends something, but actually, or err I can nevertheless not be? 
since I use still different SIP accounts, which are involved in RUL also, an automated evaluation is with me possibly. not possibly. Thus often so Sipgate in detail -> O2FN outgoing on CO2 mobile phone = free Carpo in detail -> O2FN outgoing on O2-Homezone = free etc. Perhaps that is the solution - only RUL of einem/zu a Family Handys are computed, if 2 CO2 lines are used. Except with DOC456, with that is all again somewhat different… I will now times continue to observe with me and will times look whether CO2 continues to register the RULs with itself. A status will write then again. But at the earliest in one week… after the vacation
Tja, that is a further phenomenon, the support knew exactly which I 7270 drives, even the firmware conditions. I assume TR069 functioned, although I stopped the Dmon… With a good network scanner I get also system information, if necessary. also firmware. In addition I do not need TR069. With me there are already for a long time problems, since also the attached do not CO2-rout reach can. Good so… To telephone goes problem-free in branch-pure quality. And which one wants more. Ui, that is unpleasant with remote maintenance. Actually I do not want at all that CO2 on my Fritz come. Straight times looked, with me is in .export file no TR-069. Think that is with Freetz probably rausgeflogen HP: Have here also parallel call and immediate forwarding and direct-inward dialing. And so far everything without costs. Also nix in the office one adjusts or of the Website. That makes everything beautiful the Fritz. Always with the peace! That does not certainly come by spying the Fritz box. Also not by TR069. Each good eating scanner can determine type of routing. And a script is enough to change around the RUL in the Web attitude. Approximately so: If one Family mobile phone AND 2 O2Festnetzverbindungen used then If Handy1 over O2FN-Ltg1 a connection over O2FN-Ltg2 constructs again and again, then register after 5 repetitions the rule in FN-bypasses and compute fees Therefore the question whether with constantly different connections also the forwarding goal in the portal in each case changes. Only I had held still no conversations across the RUL on my mobile phone (as said, this RUL was never active). From therefore it it cannot be that CO2 could use any Skripte or other with me… Procured I threw also times a critical view into my calculation. Result: approx. 30 calls per month by RUL = 0. -€ Fees Strange way is proven a call even with U for bypass in the calculation, however likewise with 0. -€ There the calculation got and sees, ALL discussions marked by U something cost. Goods fortunately only few… Thus CO2 must have nevertheless registered the RULs from the FB with itself . White momentarily not whether I am to again try with the RULs. The UFO can again attach not each time over examine whether CO2 took up the RULs with itself .
But you make something nevertheless wrong… If there is only the Fritz box and a Rufumleitung is adjusted there, then nevertheless everything makes the FB without it CO2 receives… With me that functions perfectly… EVERYTHING goes without problems… More olive There one can make nevertheless nothing wrong ... Particularly since I cannot see also the CO2 fixed net attitudes (in the Web). Thus also nothing can have made there…
that is really a glaring thing. Naturally immediately on-line wanted to look whether any RUL were set, but one does not come momentarily with CO2 on its data. Could the only direct RUL does concern or determine that someone with parallel call or Callthrough? Does someone know, why with me with Callthroug no outgoing call number is indicated, although is close-posed? The calling gets always “unknown” instead of call number. Does on-line opinion go not only by attached O2Router? There was nevertheless which… Cannot me of the connections any longer exactly remind. I mean the opinion under http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php/www.o2-online.de. There technically straight which one changes over, therefore that cannot be done. there one can also change the Rufumleitungen. I know The attitudes in the portal correspond again with CO2-rout. Therefore goes it believes I only, if the O2Router to-hangs. Perhaps that can confirm someone and/or. communicate, which it also with do not CO2-rout folds. Quotation:
I have the Fritz box - however nevertheless on-line can see bypass attitudes! I.e. there nothing stands, with me is adjusted it only in the Fritz box… More olive Starting from Monday it went also again. With me the bypasses stand also only in the Fritz and not on-line… Quotation:
With me always “… for technical reasons our system is not to you at present at the disposal. We work on the elimination of errors and apologize for incommodities resulting from it. " @ilvoip, I already get the message for months. The ticket is still open and I assumes that it lies to the Fritz, which closes CO2 the entrance in the WebIf with MyO2… In addition, deactivate all RUL goes with key PAD, something with ** 21# or in such a way… Ticket ... with me letter of complaint with the GL in Munich  Times see which me in the written statement answering. Otherwise CO2 runs however pointed-moderately well. Therefore no reason for changes. Only the Verppelung of the customer service “…. determines next week. “slowly gene FFS has me. thus I eingerichet straight times from fun a rufumleitung on mine handy. uses the 7270 and sees there, the rufumleitung is immediately on-line in the CO2 system registered…. whether there possibly. avm with CO2 on any way together works?!? Nevertheless please a forwarding tries out or call through with time delay. A direct co-operation of Fritz box and CO2 technology I can hardly introduce myself. The RUL with “outlet call number = automatic” (with earlier L.G. = without) is furnished by the Fritz box as RUL in the office, equally with ISDN and similar Telefonie. Functioned (e) with me as can be prove with Telekom and Hansenet and o-half should be not different with. thus on attitude of the retarded rufumleitung see with CO2 on-line also the 20 seconds of transfer. Callthrough is not indicated with CO2. @andilao is correct, if automatically in it takes over CO2 this, with a manual selection of the call number, does not stand happens for anything. thus the problem should probably result from the automatic outlet call number, thanks for taps; =) however is logical, which sends the Fritz then to the technology of CO2 the data for mechanism. thus to all: if the automatic outlet call number changes over to a manual assignment, then should you also again free of charge the RUL get.  for Andilao + Saber2003Finally is enlightened, which for weeks here by the forum spirit ore. Now also me naturally clearly waum it is with me does not arise: firm regulating and none “automatically” Quotation:
Somehow raff I that not. Where do I have which to adjust (asks to explain times step by step)? I had with outlet call number instead of automatically my telephone number. But unfortunately the CO2 conveyed… Also a deactivation in the Fritz box does not bring anything. The RUL is still active. Also the RULs by telephone with the numbers indicated here does not fold http://www.o2online.de/nw/support/ds...pageframe.html
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in FB and o2online.de Thus if I understood that correctly (and I pursue the Thread here intensively =)) then a not attainable side in the MyO2-Portal is to be rated positively, there therefore CO2 not on the box “listens” (whether intentionally or not). And thus one should not wake sleeping dogs . That it with some nevertheless funzt in the portal, push I then onto the statistic occurrence of exceptions. I have momentarily however the problem that I do not believe the FB funzt also always correctly or manipulated. The following: Calltrough for 3 CO2 Familynummern furnished and already longer in enterprise - therefore also all HandytelefonbucheingetragenenFestnetznummern with pin etc. stored (thus in such a way deposited in the directory: 030 12345678p **** p0p040 12345678). Until recently functioned. Now no more, at least not from the TB. If I however only 030 12345678 type… are waiting to ddleddle of FB comes, then only type that Pin, which is tt confirmed with a simple short and afterwards OFFICE to get (“0“) and finally if free character sounds those 040 12345678 type one behind the other away. Either my mobile phone has to send it forgotten DTMF tones or - and this feeling become not loose I - fuscht from time to time someone on the box rum (which would be legally most burning). For what hold you of it? Quotation:
 Nee in Ernst - ET or CO2 were not reliably at your Fritzchen. Firmware update or other changes? thus the CO2 to your Fritz to was holds I for unwarscheinlich. over the offerer cannot it serves actually also be: original Fritz box Quotation:
whether it possibly. , after publication of your PWs to the hotline, is questionably there avm into the current laboratory the possibility has CO2 is in the future possible for before all as DSL offerer to furnish, before all because of that 15 digit pin. I go honour of it out of the something into your Fritz crosswise sat down. separate nevertheless simply times 15 min the Fritz from the river, is already miracle brought; =) Quotation:
Everything already tries! For me even 50cm thick lead walls build let because of the sun . Tried it with the C905 and sees there it funzt marvelous. Which was noticeable: It is completely simple: Before ca.3 months I had not weighted times about that presence that cycles per second not to see (little house) with CO2 - which were solution the fact that I got a female language announcement “Home” for this time and latches itself these to for a long time into the selection process, if by Fritz the pin is to be already queried. To exactly explain I know `s in addition, nich. Thus I made simply the break longer between my FritzCalltroughnummer and that for pin inquiries (03012345678ppp**** p0p….) and already rappelts again in the cardboard. Are nevertheless however almost bizarre, which for little things such failures release and sweep like one them again with still stranger little things of the table. P.S.: To the original topic back: are so what with the RUL on parallel call, which is not really parallel, but wants to reroute also on `s mobile phone “?”. nich desired gefunzt immediately! P.P.S.: @thj your answer evenly only read. you have also the Homeansage with you. or is it because of my mobile phone (nokia e51)? Quotation:
To what do you refer now? What do you mean with clay/tone indicator? explain you - on my account also by pn, because *offtopic*! The clay/tone indicator is the most reliable kind you to communicate whether you with a Genionvertrag in the Homezone (in former times also times town center zone) is and outgoing discussions in the fixed net around some is more favorable. The announcements on the mobile phone do not function since UMTS any longer reliably and/or. not at all. If it however with you Callthrough disturbs then deactivates it nevertheless simply (1414). With me the free are specified family & office discussions no more in the current calculation. Beside the new Design probably directly also away-rationalizes. Who can confirm that? HP: Everything properly accounted for and/or. not accounted for. Are very content. Also the Flat discussions are not any more in the list… harm! A good orientation was and I as CSV or in any way gladly still would have always continued to have. Quotation:
that is really unfortunate, can me VoIP sighs to only attach. a complete EVN with all discussions had an absolute advantage at least for me. Since 23.12.2009 I have also CO2 DSL and use a FBF7170. Unfortunately I cannot access also since beginning on the DSL Web interface. I programmed various far and bypasses. I furnished all this by not “automatically” but by firm outlet number, but with a confirmation that I do not use official bypasses would be me already better. Is it normal that the interface does not go, if one uses a FBF? The Web interface does not go also with you. By the way all other contracts (mobile) are not observably, only DSL. Normally it lasts max. 2 days to the Web interface functions. Thus Monday/if Tuesday should not be, I would call times free of charge with CO2 The Web interface does not have anything with routs to do! Use also ne FBF and the interface goes without problems. Or it became possibly. under another customer number booked? Did you already make de-energising for the contract? One must de-energise oneself on-line only around the contract to see… With me the Web interface does not go for several months. There are not also no Erklung why… As already said, I deleted the bypasses registered on the CO2 side again and registered her again into the Fritz (7240). Since then all Fritz box call bypasses without computation function. Whereby I in the Web interface the Fritz with outlet call number “automatic” are located has. That cannot be it thus rather nevertheless. Another thought: to have or the people, at which the Rufumleitung from the Fritz to CO2 was taken over, had activated had the password inquiry for the access to the Fritz, or not? At the beginning, when the RULs was taken over with me, I did not have this password inquiry in it. Now it is active and my Rufumleitungen remains only in the Fritz. You mean the usual password inquiry with the access to the FBF, or? I have those. I do not believe however actually rather that CO2 actually accesses the FBF. I cannot imagine that those may do that. The stupid with me is only the fact that I cannot check, whether from me the bypasses have because with me does not funzt on-line interface. I tested that times and am located with “automatic” immediately a Rufumleitung in the CO2 customer portal. If I select a number, that does not happen… @dj-sash: Those are also two different kinds, as a call becomes “more far-reaching”.
At my Telekom connection I see all call detours, which I defined in the Fritz box with “automatically” therefore in the customer center also. In the first case CO2 can define own tariffs for 'ne AWS (e.g. Exclusion of a Flat), in the second case (RUL) is it only one discussion, which is developed “coincidentally” to a detailed call. Here also still to the topic call forwardings are to a few explanations: http://www.telefaq.de/umleitungen.html Seh I that correctly that over the hand attachment furnished RUL/AWS remains durable in the Fritz, if one activated her? The entry is deactivated thereafter only activated/, depending on whether one switches a RUL or not. Can confirm that the “automatic” with o2online are registered, the firmly going off call numbers however not. One must change Ergo into the Fritz the entries of the RUL of automatic on firm uniquely and it should fit, or? If I furnish a Rufumleitung, wars I the also sometimes following logs Message: 08.01.10 09:11: 08 Internettelefonie with %2321%23 over sip.o2online.de was not successful. A cause: Request Terminated (487) Telefonie took place however none. EDIT: http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showpos...68&postcount=3 Quotation:
We use those Fritz 7240 and have since newest the problem that the Rufumleitung does not function correctly any longer. The following scenario: 1. Line telephones outgoing 2. Line: Detailed call on fixed net number 1 -> Call forwarding on mobile phone is implemented The caller on the 2. Line receives only one busy signal! Several weeks ago went without problems. Now it functions only, if all voice grade channels are free. The also following scenario does not go any longer: 1. Line (1. Call number) calls 2. Fixed net number on> Call forwarding on mobile phone is released. 1. Call number hears only a busy signal. Also went before without problems. Does someone have the same problem or runs it with someone without problems? afaik only two discussions go at the same time with CO2. for rufumleitung/direct-inward dialing thus still one may not telephone. anyhow if my experience with CO2 is, use parallel call and direct-inward dialing. direct-inward dialing on a CO2-strange voip number functions, even if already one telephones. HP: with Fritz 3 max voip connections are possible There we Fritz to use would have it to go nevertheless or? 1. Line telephones 2. Line call comes purely 3. Line Rufumleitung Or do I understand that wrongly? So far also always went without problems, only since a few weeks no longer… by CO2 voip only two discussions can be led at the same time. until some time ago were here and there times which one also three at the same time lead could. Thus I observed the following with me: A change in the Rufumleitungen, thus for hooks set or reset and then with “take over” confirm effectuation always a short lighting up of the “Internettelefonie” LED to the Fritz, independently of the attitudes outlet call number “automatically” or firmly. Looks thus in such a way, as if those telephones to Fritz to “house”. The fixed net attitudes in the CO2 portal are not to be seen for me as for many different. I can sound myself but not delete the attitudes over telephone. I can confirm the observation of doc456: The number, on the rerouting will is (492402) with CO2 the local direct-inward dialing one places in front. From this becomes then (02402 492402) which results in naturally complete Mumpitz. There then in my local area network to the participant with the direct-inward dialing 492402 one passes on. That does not apply brigends, if I reroute on my mobile telephone, here correctly on the number is rerouted. The problem I could solve thereby, which I had stopped a Rufumleitung to my direct-inward dialing thus () without preselection. Afterwards those seemed Fritz then again home to telephoning, and sees there: Abfage over telephone (*#21*#) resulted in: “… a Rufumleitung is furnished on the number 02402.” Thus the Rufumleitung functions now again correctly, costs however, weil's over CO2 and not in the FB runs. The RUL is changeable however not erasable over the FB. After result this Thread's reads and little Testerei: Some Fritz boxes send a command to CO2, RUL thereafter no longer locally in the FB made to separate, to chargeable, with CO2. The behavior does not seem to be uniform, some people no problems or yet nothing noticed. Others can affect the behavior of the FB by attitudes on the outlet call number. Again different one, like I also, cannot realize FB internal Rufumleitungen. Can your that confirm? Thus definitely it is with me like that, which if I let stand with the RUL “automatic”, the data to the CO2 Vermittlungstelle go and thus liable to pay the costs am. If I select a call number manually, no data go thus free of charge to the Vermittlungstelle. Rear one, is new customer. I had to call only the Hotline, in order to get entrance to My CO2, because did not go to on-line to register. There RUL von Festnetz 4 on CO2 mobile phone was as registered in the 7270 actually. After the deletion today however no further changes in CO2 were transmitted, despite repeated changes in the 7270 between direct and automatically. Also VCI of the 2. Have no effects change PVC, all the same whether 32 or 35. It will continue to observe. RUL is posed for safety reasons on direct. Funzt with whom still the RUL/Parallelruf from the Fritz? Wars in the log: Quotation:
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TR069? Moin, recently also a problem of the kind had, result 135.85€ of 192,59€ alone for the bypasses in last calculation. However gabs the rule in rout (7141/40.04.76) already longer, I had it only by a new to replace, since not all characteristics of an existing bypass rule can be changed. The old applied to all MSN, which new only for a certain, both was with outlet number: Automatically As far as I understood everything correctly here, it is probably routs, but should AVM and/or. that rout not actually ask whether the bypass in the net is to be furnished or internally? Or at least in knowledge set that these in the net is furnished? Because depending upon offerer the costs can also vary. CO2 places itself crosswise, “it cannot have furnished itself”, I am to pay the sum, whereby I was not on the CO2 DSL portal for years any more drauf… Were allegedly they cannot paint the bypass costs only for two days, since I the bypass in rout a few days before the call with those deactivated, these however in the system punched… Madly and which nu? I had read in addition the explanation somewhere - that is a feature on the part of AVM That corresponds to the earlier “bypass in the office”. We are pleased ever more around the adjustment of CO2 to open devices like the Fritz box. That is however the consequence - such features can loose-go to the rear and unfortunately give the Preisliste+AGB CO2 right. Condolence! Quotation:
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@Anf: In any case calculations in writing complain of! If that is worth the expenditure to you, then let you legally advise. That is a case for the consumer protection. As a layman I would argue as follows: 1. In the Fritz box “Rufumleitung” is located, but technically seen it concerns a forwarding (call forward), i.e. the detailed line remains occupied contrary to the genuine Rufumleitung on the office level (call divert). Callfurtherlines in the CO2 net - all the same whether to internal branches or externally - are a not component of the AGB. 2. CO2 knows and may do Rufumleitungen, conference circuits etc. on office level gladly in calculation place, because it finally furnishes for this an additional service, keeps free to you the line and must hard and software for it hold. Which happens however on user level, she does not concern, and from it no additional work results to it. Whether I accept a call and him manually internally or externally passes on or the Fritz box lets it make, CO2 should be all the same, because thus it does not have to do anything. Forwardings to the internal answering set are also not charged for, or? 3. It is obviously actually like that that the Fritz box sends data to the Provider. That is bld and should be turned off, and was and/or. is not well-known most. But there is as with each communication two sides: AVM on the one, CO2 on the other one. The fact that CO2 uses the received data in the way that from an originally wanted free call forwarding on user level a liable to pay the costs Rufumleitung on Provider level becomes, without the customer of it experiences, is because of the prop. guessing eras software of CO2 and is, gentle said, surprising. Me it is not well-known that it runs also in such a way with other Providern. If you would have known that the software reacts in such a way, then you would have let whole be other attitudes made or it. Besides you could not count particularly on the fact that additional costs come to you, because it was before your small modification also not the case. 4. The Fritz box is not placed in the meantime of CO2 as Provider - okay, with you and other one, but all the same. In any case one must have mitgekriegt CO2 in the meantime, how the Fritz box functioned and that many deplore themselves because of the inadvertent Rufumleitung and the associated case of cost. They should for the future the pre-setting of the Fritz box (and others?) change with distribution and their own software change. It may not be simply that attitudes without express customer order are made. If they state seriously the fact that you passed the changes on to them and not the Fritz box then is to prove it to you, when exactly you logged in into my CO2 and/or. a telephone order gave. The Fritz box is not the suitable portal for such a thing. If CO2 these weak points of its supplied rout uses, in my eyes the Abzocke is. Quotation:
@h2b: Concerning 1: Yes, but after the bypass already with CO2 in the system of rout one registered, detailed calls come with rout not even on, it will then a Rufumleitung on office level and them become also entsprechnd the P. 2 of CO2 treats. Leave (property it to delete) To 2, 3: The two Punke are also clear me. Concerning 4: Here you gave me a pair important references, I believe, I by it will support myself, “with additional costs connected attitudes without express customer order/consent”, “suitable portal”... I do not have myself to overwrite now with intention on the CO2 side logged in around the last Logindatum not, and at all, I knew not at all times the user names more, me that with the telephone call call let. Actually, seen, the system quite-borrowed these attitudes to reject would have had, or? Thanks you Quotation:
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all RUL firmly, TR-069 is switched off, FBF of 1&1 entbrandet CO2> CO2 on paralleruf If I with the CO2> CO2 attitudes which change, briefly the Telefoniediode on FBF shines on and on the CO2 side are the changes equivalent in it I have so an impression that not the call number goes to the server over the bypass is communicated, but only the goal call number thus CO2> CO2 method becomes slowly cost-mirror-image-lies Edit: 10. February diode lights up, attitudes is not transferred, at least to CO2 side visibly, Rufumleitung does not go over FBF Quotation:
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in the sense FBF7270=UFO+FAX (internal) +DECT+5AB+USB_Host Quotation:
To the comparison: If I order a gift home, it does not concern anything the supplier, whom I would like to beglcken thereby. It is, I assigns the supplier to supply directly to the presented one. CO2 however supplies directly and without order, only because the Fritz box tells it coincidentally or intentionally, anyhow however without knowledge of the customer, who the receiver to be is. That is m.E. not legal. Quotation:
Yesterday I read the description on CO2 side that one can furnish the Rufumleitungen simply over telephone keyboard, am somewhere in the O2DSL-Buch Thus that the CO2> Rufumleitung to use want, are that to consider. I am desperately whether one there requirements validly make can, at least against CO2 - which support the function well-known-prove longer, AVM are there more involved - those do not have to describe this in L.G. implemented without somewhere or admit to give, I find appropriate references in L.G. 70.76 and 80. Quotation:
Since I in the summer from 1&1 to CO2 under use of the Tschibo action to change would like - among other things because of the forwarding (BWHZ) - that already interests me. Balloni Quotation:
There is nevertheless another solution those was already several times described It is definitv the FBF! I found the following unsuccessful attempts evenly in the log, since the offerers do not support that obviously: 10.02.10 12:00: 12 Internettelefonie with %2367%23 over sip.sipport.de was not successful. A cause: Emergency Found (404) 10.02.10 12:00: 11 Internettelefonie with %2321%23 over sip.sipport.de was not successful. A cause: Emergency Found (404) 10.02.10 11:59: 53 Internettelefonie with %2367%23 over 1und1.de was not successful. A cause: Proxy Authentication Required (407) 10.02.10 11:59: 53 Internettelefonie with %2321%23 over 1und1.de was not successful. A cause: Proxy Authentication Required (407) I deactivated and again activated a parallel call (on savings call)! Quotation:
Your quotation by the way comes from me, not from Anf. With the telephone keyboard might to everyone admits to be - is with the mobile phone also like that. Not the mobile part reroutes the calls, but the server with the Provider, if one types the codes of the Providers. Perhaps it is located in the operating instructions of the UFO even in it that an entry has there effects on the server attitude. I do not know myself there out, because I am new with CO2. But concerning the 7270, which I got from CO2, I got definitely no reference to it - and that may not be. If CO2 from a free call forwarding in the Fritz box makes a liable to pay the costs Rufumleitung in the server, it must refer the customers before to it. As said, there is a technical difference between a forwarding and a bypass, and only bypasses by the server are liable to pay the costs. That is my personal point of view. Good day together, I had the problem with EWEtel fixed net. From me a Rufumleitung was switched into the Fritz on mobile phone. In addition the ISDN channel A was used + B. A clean-coming call, B rausgehender call on mobile phone over a furnished Festnetzummer. Since all calls of my fixed net are free on my mobile phone, I used this variant. Also these bypasses were then charged for to me. I have to make it understandable then for business, the EWEtel that the bypass happens with me on the Fritz and not by code mechanism with the EWEtel, which would be also possible. Result: And since that no new calculations get credit note of all Rufumleitungen. This times to info. I intend to change to CO2. Ne FB7170 has, where I a Rufumleitung on my CO2 Handynr. to furnish would like. I become a sipgate and a foreign Festnetznr in detail. use. You mean to compute, CO2 the Rufumleitungen or happened that, only if one a o2-Festnetznr. on mobile phone passes on? Thanks. Quotation:
Internet DSL: o2@dsl.o2online.de Password: freeway SIP identification is to be inquired Quotation:
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Well, as, is safer it is also in any case to avoid “automatically”. I hab' “automatically” equal “choice rules” always regards. To 9.02 hab' I firm-posed the fact that it made for CO2 at all no difference whether “automatically” or procession-pointed. To 10.02 was it already again different: no entry on the part of CO2. I my Fritz box the muzzle plugged. 1. O2-Branding removes 2. Under system - network - offerer services the option “automatic mechanism by the service tenderer permit” deactivated Since then I no more problems had. Quotation:
I have additionally one .export file provided. TR069 server through - 127.0.0.1 - replaces searched for “1und1”, through “avm” replaces the boxes with o2-Branding should have sentence “otwo” Code: tr069cfg {
enabled = NO;
litemode = yes;
igd {
DEVICE info. {
ProvisioningCode = “000.000.000.000”;
FirstUseDate = “2009-11-26 11:46: 34”;
}
management server {
URL = “http://127.0.0.0/”;
username = "";
password = "";
URLAlreadyContacted = NO;
URLbyDHCPIface = "";
PeriodicInformEnable = NO;
PeriodicInformInterval = 0;
PeriodicInformTime = “1970-01-01 01:00: 00”;
UpgradesManaged = NO;
ACSInitiationEnable = yes;
ConnectionRequestUsername = "";
ConnectionRequestPassword = "";
}
}
Firmware down load {
enabled = NO;
enabled_converted = yes;
valid = NO;
suppress_notify = yes;
status = 0;
Starting Time = “1970-01-01 01:00: 00”;
CompleteTime = “1970-01-01 01:00: 00”;
}
RebootRequest = NO;
RebootRequest_CommandKey = "";
ACS_SSL {
more verify_server = yes;
trusted_ca_file = “/etc/default/avm/root_ca.pem”;
}
Download_SSL {
more verify_server = yes;
trusted_ca_file = “/etc/default/avm/root_ca.pem”;
}
}
// eof
additionally set of “NoChecks=yes” imported, the modified file again into the box loaded, finished. After a Recovery it remains also in such a way.
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Hello, I had these problems with on-line portal also. Property me then with the Hotline weights several times. After approximately. 2 weeks took those that seriously and after further 4 weeks with several calls and nice demands, whether it goes now, have those the gotten. To-remain only persistent! In principle are completely nice with CO2. |
